Onsdag 24. juli 2013 12.08.32 skrev Alex Midence: > I'll create a virtual machine and begin testing before the month is up. Do > I need to have something like Fedora Rawhide or Ubuntu 13.10 to test in an > environment that will give you valuable data?
No, any reasonalbly recent linux distro should work just fine. I'd go with something not too old so that at-spi-2 works. You can qet Qt 5 installers here: http://download.qt-project.org/official_releases but they will not be accessible. I guess there are more and more distribution packages showing up these days, so hopefully that provides a convenient way to test. Alternatively you can build from source which is somewhat time consuming. Cheers, Frederik > > Alex M > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frederik Gladhorn [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:35 AM > To: [email protected]; 'Ubuntu Accessibility Mailing List'; > [email protected] > Cc: Alex Midence; 'Krishnakant Mane' > Subject: Re: [orca-list] [Kde-accessibility] Ubuntu Unity Desktop to go to > Mir and QT > > Onsdag 24. juli 2013 08.47.34 skrev Alex Midence: > > Very true. The thing that I want to test is editable text areas in QT. > > That was the biggest problem I saw last year when I was trying out > > KDE. If you were in Kate or Kmail and there was some text you wanted > > to put in either because you were editing a file or filling out a form > > of some kind, Orca couldn't read it back to you. If it was a field > > you were filling in, you could tab away and backtab back to it and > > Orca would speak its contents but, individual character by character > > or word by word navigation was not possible at the time. I hope > > that's gotten better since then. I haven't looked at it since May or > > June of last year, I think. It is a very important piece of the puzzle. > > For Kate it would be great if I could get bug reports with an easy > description on https://bugs.kde.org . > > Another interesting thing to try would be Qt Creator - which is probably > quite complex to test, but for me the editor pretty much works with Orca. Or > as a simpler test the text editor example that is shipped with Qt 5 > (examples/widgets/richtext/textedit). In general using one of the many > examples shipped with Qt makes it easier for me to reproduce bugs, feel > free to file Qt accessibility bugs on https://bugreports.qt-project.org and > make sure to choose "Gui: Accessibility" as component. > > Generally the text interfaces should be much better in Qt 5 compared to Qt > 4, but need some testing. > > KMail is using WebKit and is not expected to work all that great (even > though Jose made it work much better than before). > > Greetings > Frederik > > > Alex M > > > > > > > > From: Krishnakant Mane [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:42 AM > > To: Alex Midence > > Cc: 'Frederik Gladhorn'; [email protected]; > > [email protected]; 'Ubuntu Accessibility Mailing List'; > > [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [orca-list] [Kde-accessibility] Ubuntu Unity Desktop to > > go to Mir and QT > > > > > > > > This essentially means we must try things pretty early on and start > > reporting bugs agressively. > > happy hacking. > > Krishnakant. > > > > On 07/24/2013 06:37 PM, Alex Midence wrote: > > > > Wonderful news! I certainly feel better for it. Thanks for all your > > hard work on qt-at-spi. > > > > > > > > Alex M > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Frederik Gladhorn [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:21 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: Alex Midence; [email protected]; [email protected]; > > Ubuntu Accessibility Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Kde-accessibility] Ubuntu Unity Desktop to go to Mir and > > QT > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 23. July 2013 13.23.47 Alex Midence wrote: > > > > > > Hi, all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like Ubuntu's Unity desktop will be switching to QT/QML in > > the > > > > near > > > > > > future. It looks like they'll be using QT5. Does anyone know the > > current > > > > > > > > state of accessibility for qt5 or QML? We were all disappointed to > > find > > > > > > > > out that Unity 2d was discontinued in Ubuntu 12.04 and it is believed > > that > > > > > > > > Ubuntu 14.04 would continue it's wonderfully accessible legacy. This > > was > > > > > > > > supposed to soothe our ruffled feathers when 12.10 and 13.04 came out > > with > > > > > > > > Unity 3d only which was not as accessible. Well, now, I am curious to > > know > > > > > > > > if the timetable for that level of accessibility in a Ubuntu desktop > > will > > > > > > > > need to be pushed back even more in light of this development. Please > > see > > > > > > > > link below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Qt 5 contains all the accessibility code that was used for Qt 4, > > including the plugin qt-at-spi which will then no longer be needed. > > Many things have also been improved since we learned from finally making > > Qt 4 accessible. > > > All in all this means that the Qt 5 based Unity should be able to > > reach the level of the old Unity and hopefully exceed it. Of course > > that's still up to the Unity developers and probably a fix here or > > there in Qt, but generally I would expect things to look good. > > > > > > > > Greetings > > > > Frederik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/unity-next-project-announced > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > orca-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. > > The manual is at > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out > > how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
