You hear! That's important! You'll also hear that droid accessibility sucks form others, and I discount both of these as I don't have access to a modern droid device running a recent version to t4est. Besides this, the other points that CJ makes are also important. There may or may not not be more Google employees directly working on android, I don't have a clue and don't care enough to Google the answer up, but the first attempts at android were not accessible as I recall, and when some accessibility enhancements were added it was still a far cry from what existed for the dreaded iphone, which was not accessible in its first versions. Just to point out even another difference consider that there are currently at least 900,000,000 nine hundred million, android devices activated in the world, and estimates of Ubuntu usage seem to be around 20,000,000, twenty million. Even if those figures are off by more than one would imagine logically, we are talking tens of millions compared with hundreds of millions. HKK, you are someone I respect and like from what little I know, so please understand I'm attacking your logic, not you. I, and even occasionally my very level headed CJ once in a while make off the cuff statements that don't hold water when put to the test...lol If Ubuntu captures significant market share, and I'm not even saying they have to be #3 overall in the mobile market, they certainly will need to make a strong effort to have a nicely accessible touch interface. I even think there's bit of room for criticism for their accessibility work now, but on the other hand it's ahead of other Linux distros. I am hoping for the best, won't be surprised much by pretty bad, and am expecting something in between to tell the truth as far as Ubuntu accessibility goes in the next year or so. Maybe by 2016's lts we'll have well integrated ccessible touch...not betting more than a drink or home cooked meal on it though! -- B.H.
n 13-10-30 04:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > I don't understand the analogy with Android. Android runs on smart > phones and tablets and a few other devices. It doesn't run on laptops, > desktops or servers. It isn't clear what the future relationship will be > between Android and ChromeOS. > > Canonical has 500 employees, the last I knew, and not all of these were > working on Ubuntu development. How many employees does Google have and > how many developers are working on Android? Canonical is not making a > profit. What is Google's profit and the other companies contributing to > Android? > > As the saying goes, I think comparing Ubuntu to Android is like > comparing apples to oranges. > > On 10/30/2013 05:00 PM, Krishnakant Mane wrote: >> Well, I see that Ubuntu wishes to be on tabs or phones or all other such >> machines, but I don't clearly see that the vission has accessibility >> that seriously. >> These days I hear that android is quite improved on accessibility and >> has done so pritty quickly. >> This is what it means by being serious about accessibility. >> happy hacking. >> Krishnakant. >> On 10/31/2013 01:21 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >>> On 10/30/2013 02:19 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: >>>> On 10/30/2013 11:19 AM, Luke Yelavich wrote: >>>>> If there were more resources, more effort could be put into supporting >>>>> interim releases. Luke >>>> >>>> I agree. It's a shame that Canonical is so focused on replacing GNOME >>>> with Unity, replacing Wayland with Mir, building its own cloud >>>> deployment solution, putting Ubuntu on every device, that it only has a >>>> single developer to spare for access, which is why I've asked for years >>>> what meaningful action can be done about that. Even Android pushes out >>>> accessibility improvements faster than does Ubuntu these days. But >>>> there >>>> just doesn't seem like enough interest from Canonical--too busy >>>> pandering to their able-bodied users I suppose--so I'm at a loss. >>>> >>>> The issue isn't resources. It's priorities. >>> >>> I agree it's a shame there aren't more resources for accessibility, >>> and it is obviously a case of priorities and not resources. I don't >>> agree though that it's a case of Canonical just pandering to their >>> able bodied users. Mark Shuttleworth and Canonical have a vision of an >>> OS that encompasses smart phones, tablets, laptops, desktops and >>> servers. I want to see this vision succeed, and I want to see ubuntu >>> rival Windows, Android and the Apple OS's. I think this will benefit >>> all computer users, including the blind. Last I knew, Canonical was >>> trying to accomplish this, and build their commercial business, with >>> around 500 employees and has yet to make a profit. >>> >>> I agree we should be clambering for more resources for accessibility >>> and we should be demanding that accessibility be a higher priority, >>> but I don't think that we should be asking Canonical to give up it's >>> vision to accomplish this or that we should mis characterize these >>> efforts as just pandering to their sighted users. >>> >> > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
