The IRC meetings? We've got one this Saturday at 10 PM (UTC) and another on Sunday at the same time. (10pm UTC is 5PM EST)
...and Mac converts I generally find the hardest to convert; if only because they have bought heavily into Apple, and proclaim the 'stress-free lifestyle' to be the best, even though, for the most part, we share that and the fact that we've got no cost, either. :P On 9 December 2010 12:33, Archibald Platypus <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 12:22 +0000, [email protected] wrote: > > We were discussing that a while back, trying to gather support from > > system76 and other companies who ship Ubuntu by default. > > > > That's a topic we can discuss during the meetings saturday and > > sunday :) > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarek. > > Speaking of which, where can I find some details on that? I feel like I > have them somewhere in my inbox, but I can't seem to find them... > > > > > Em 09/12/2010 09:48, Archibald Platypus <[email protected]> > > escreveu: > > > You raise some interesting points here. As someone who constantly > > > > > > proselytizes the open source lifestyle, I have come into contact > > with > > > > > > all kinds of excuses. While I've found that it's relatively easy to > > > > > > convert XP users to, say, Ubuntu (no need to bring Linux > > > and of its own> up with most people), the conversion rates drop > > > > > > significantly when the change in question is from say Windows 7 > > (don't > > > > > > even try converting Mac users, even though I myself am a Mac > > convert) or > > > > > > when someone is about to purchase a new computer. "No, I think I'm > > just > > > > > > gonna try out 7" they say, but then add, "but maybe you could put it > > on > > > > > > this one?" pointing at their "old" machine. You can pique their > > > > > > curiosity with "rejuvenation," but "alternative" is a much harder > > idea > > > > > > to push. If perhaps there was a way to push optimized-for-Linux > > hardware > > > > > > (someone brought that up in a thread at ubuntuforums) onto the scene > > > > > > with Ubuntu pre-loaded, they would feel more comfortable with the > > > > > > alternative. Because then it's a "competitor." People trip about > > > > > > words... > > > > > > > > > > > > And one more thing: my conversion rate is nearly 100% on netbooks, > > > > > > because there really just is no competition in this arena. I feel > > like > > > > > > Canonical understands this, though, because one look at Unity > > screams > > > > > > "NETBOOK" (though I'm not terribly fond of its translation to "real" > > > > > > hardware). Who's looking to start up a *ahem* start-up? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 11:19 +0000, Barry Drake wrote: > > > > > > > I thought I'd ask one or two colleagues how they would react to > > Ubuntu > > > > > > > advertising - and what features might tempt them to give it a > > try. One > > > > > > > said that support was his biggest need - someone to reassure him > > and > > > > > > > hold his hand. This is something we're really strong on. Another > > said > > > > > > > that now he had his computers working well on Windows 7 he would > > be very > > > > > > > reluctant even to try anything. This confirms my suspicion that > > anyone > > > > > > > using anything really up-to-date isn't part of our useful target. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another colleague has a large collection of Libronix books that > > cost > > > > > > > over £1000, so he is not part of the target, and as he rightly > > says, > > > > > > > there needs to be clear information on the website about this kind > > of > > > > > > > need. There also needs to be lobbying in the direction of > > Libronix. > > > > > > > I've e-mailed of course, but it took many, many Mac users to > > persuade > > > > > > > them to produce a Mac version. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the website ought to have clear information as to which of > > the > > > > > > > user's files are portable and which are not (Autocad, M$ > > Publisher ...). > > > > > > > The last thing anyone here wants if for someone to go to a lot of > > > > > > > trouble and find they can't do the one thing that's most important > > to > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, when I asked the question, I only mentioned > > Ubuntu. Each > > > > > > > of the responses used the words 'operating system', and the > > responders > > > > > > > were quite clear that Windows is just an 'operating system' among > > > > > > > others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another colleague asks if approaches have been made to Which, and > > can we > > > > > > > persuade mags such as PC magazine etc to carry an article. Job > > here for > > > > > > > you Canonical guys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Barry Drake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Mailing list: > > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> > > > > > > Post to : [email protected] > > > > > > Unsubscribe : > > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> > > > > > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu
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