2011/2/14 yitzchak schwarz <[email protected]>: > I'm not saying it will be difficult to get into mainstream, I am > saying it won't be a game-changer, because it is merely a stepping > stone on the path towards a new and finally mature Ubuntu, very much > like all the releases so far. 11.10 could be it, I suppose, but I > don't think there will be enough commercial apps in the USC at the > time, and it will probably still be missing some features, not to > mention that it won't be LTS. What will make a game changer release is > an accumulation of features, polish, and commercial apps. Other great > contributers are LTS status, the formation of a single, coherent, and > well defined platform for software development, and backward > compatibility so that packages that were targeted at the latest and > greatest a few years ago will work without modification on the latest > and greatest of today without static bindings. Basically, when all the > complaints from all users about why there aren't commercial apps or > why Ubuntu isn't used more broadly are addressed, that's when the > Linux era will finally start. Even then it will be slow, because Linux > will be playing catch up with something that's more difficult to > replace than a browser. > > The coverage is good. It tells us the user experience is basically > already there with maybe some bugs. What's holding it back is that the > USC hasn't taken off yet, even if it takes off there will be missing > essential apps that are Mac and Windows only, at least for a while, no > significant OEM support, and no advertising to the general population. > IMO Canonical won't break even at least until 12.04, and only then > will we see new or reinvigorated OEM partnerships and real > advertising, which will first probably send customers to either a > Canonical online storefront similar to http://www.google.com/phone or > directly to OEM website. Only later if sales go well will we start to > see machines showing up in retail shops. When that happens, the game > is basically over, unless Apple, Microsoft, or some patent troll wins > a lawsuit with much fanfare that scares people away for awhile. When > things reach the point where OEM or Canonical release some good sales > figures then we will see more software ported or developed for Ubuntu > and placed in the USC, a move that will create more momentum and make > Ubuntu more likely to succeed. This also depends a lot on how Ubuntu > will be marketed. It should not be presented as the solution for > everyone or everything, but instead be carefully and clearly marketed > for certain users and certain uses or we will get much disappointment. > > I also think that LTS releases should be more clearly and forcefully > regarded and marketed as the "production version" and normal releases > as the "development version". This, coupled with a > backward-compatibility and a proper software development platform will > make things a lot easier for OEM, developers, and users who care more > about getting stuff done than the l337 and shiny. > > Anyway, that's my thinking as to why 12.04 or any later LTS are the > most likely candidates to be the game-changing release, though it > could possibly be a normal release after 12.04 as well. > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, UndiFineD <[email protected]> wrote: >> 2011/2/13 yitzchak schwarz <[email protected]>: >>> No. I think 12.04 will be the release that marks the beginning of >>> Ubuntu moving into mainstream. All we've seen so far is some flailing >>> about that lead practically nowhere. However, with a packed app store, >>> features and user experience up to par with the big boys, and a stable >>> LTS we should see a steady gain in momentum that will eventually, >>> after a few years, put Ubuntu in a similar position to that held by >>> Firefox at around 2006. >>> >>> IMO, that is. >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:03 AM, UndiFineD <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> 2011/2/12 Barry Drake <[email protected]>: >>>>> Hi .... any of you see 'Click' on BBC news this morning? >>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m9ry It gives a brief but very >>>>> positive look at Linux. It advises trying a live-cd and specifically >>>>> says that Linux is not just for geeks these days. Great! That and >>>>> PCPro in one week! >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Barry. >>>>> -- >>>>> Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. >>>>> http://ubuntuadverts.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising >>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>> >>>> YotLD - Year of the Linux desktop ? >>>> >>>> hehe great news barry >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>>> Keimpe de Jong >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising >>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>> >> >> While I agree, 11.04 may be difficult to get Ubuntu into the mainstream >> we should be welcoming every new community member. >> Seeing the media writing something positive on Linux absolutely helps. >> >> >> -- >> Met vriendelijke groeten, >> Keimpe de Jong >> >
Ah, very precise! and a pleasure to read. yet, still, our work here being done today will lay the foundations of welcoming new users One step at a time, moving closer towards bug #1 -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Keimpe de Jong _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
