Yeah ! I love your idea ! For example, when installing from the live CD,
after selecting the language, it would ask to select a theme... and the
theme would be instantly applied to the current live ubuntu (it would be the
same window than the gnome theme selector), and then it would be stored so
that when ubuntu is installed, it is already with the theme selected at the
installation !

sorry for the bad English...

Yann Dìnendal

Le 14/4/07, Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

 Hi, all.

This certainly isn't the first time we've seen this discussion cropping up
on the ubuntu-art mailing list.  I remember a year or two ago someone
suggested that because themes are such a personally subjective matter (and
for many they are the the first and easiest way to personalize one's
computer, along with the wallpaper), perhaps we should offer a small
selection of theme options at install time.

Now, I know that some might argue that we already do offer multiple themes
that are easily changed once installation is finished.  This is true,
however, I think it would be an easy, fun and even rewarding option,
especially for new users to be able to initially customize your own computer
(it is *your* computer, after all) right from the get-go--the first time
you boot up your new ubuntu machine, it asks you which theme you would like
to use, with Human as the default.

My mother used the Luna theme for Windows XP for the longest time (her
work computer...I have her on linux at home, of course!), but not because
she liked it, but because she didn't know how to change it.  Linux is about
choice, and I think this is a nice and simple choice we can offer people
right from the beginning to demonstrate this ideal.  This is probably
something to bring up more on the development side of things than the
ubuntu-art group, but I thought I would mention it once again since it
seemed a relevant option at this point in the discussion.

In regards to some of the other elements of the discussion, Ubuntu,
itself, as many of you have suggested, is cross-cultural and rooted in
different meanings to different people.  I agree that there needs to be a
"stock ubuntu" look, and I think the Human theme works admirably for that
purpose.  But I would be very curious as to what would happen if we asked
people from all different cultures to come up with their own ubuntu theme.
I think it would be really neat to see what the world can come up with.

Naturally, this is not a project I could see being completed in the near
future, and it would certainly take a certain degree of cultural
sensitivity.  But, I think it would be really empowering, then, once ubuntu
started up to have a selection of 5 or 6 themes that were perhaps based on
these culturally-derived themes so that anyone who runs ubuntu can
immediately feel, "Hey, this OS feels right--it's like it was made for me."
We offer a selection of languages at install time, why not a selection of
themes, as they seem to be culturally relevant (or at the least, personally
subjectively relevant), as well.

Well, I always halfway appreciate this discussion and halfway dread it
when it crops up.  I guess here's my 2 cents. :)  Thanks for everyone's hard
work.

Most appreciatively,
Brian

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