I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Also I mainly use a
tablet pc so its easier to click on enclosed buttons than when using a
mouse. Maybe someone could create an alternative controls (is that
correct ?) theme for people who prefer rounded buttons.
solar.george
Ken Vermette wrote:
One thing I need to say about Vista is they did good with the window
buttons. I'll give em credit where credit is due.
A few weeks before I started this theme I read as many reviews and
interface guidelines as I could, and one was a review on GUI aspects
of Vista and OSX. While they come a dime a dozen, this one was
(surprisingly) neutral.
Anyway, when it was on topic about window buttons, one thing it
mentioned constantly was "slamming", where users will slam the mouse
onto one edge of the screen. So, as long as an element touches an edge
or a corner (which is why I'm tempted to make the X cover the complete
corner of the window) the user doesn't need to bother with carefully
positioning the mouse over the button.
While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to
look at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or
2 pixels lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability
to slam.
--Ken Vermette
On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off
at the top rather like the main menu.
solar.george
Ken Vermette wrote:
It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you.
I hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of
hideous window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.
Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added.
When they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in
the theme will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the
brown and slightly altered the orange - so it should hopefully be
a bit better. I can't really use any other colours (even if I
think they'll look better) because I want to stick to the
official Ubuntu colour pallet.
I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular
colours; I don't think there will be a way to change the colours
via the colour menu - unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm
involved (similar to the one implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).
Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg>
the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF
actually has everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF
file on the first version, but the new one will be much better
for people who want to use or edit content because it's complete.
For anyone wanting to make a mockup using the files, the Mock-ups
are first edited/rendered in InkScape, then are imported into the
bottom layer of the XCF. You could delete the BG in inkscape and
export a transparent PNG to create a render suitable for porting
into other themes.
Thanks as always,
--Ken V
On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing
on me. Of coarse there are things that still need work. The
orange in the theme feels out of place. It just doesn't fit
it because of how heavy the browns are. I think using white
as the selected item color in the menus would look a lot
better. I also think that the notification area needs to use
different colors. It needs to stand out more. Now it hardly
stands out at all since it is the same color as the
background behind it, and of most windows. Speaking of the
windows, I really like the way the titlebar and menu bar are
visuially connected int the active window. In the unactive
window where it looks like just a gradient from brown to tan
looks very ugly to me.
I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could
be, but we would still get a lot of flac from the brown
haters if this were default. I hope that it works well with
the color options in the appearence settings so that keeping
the theme but using a different color is just a couple of
clicks worth of work.
Corey
On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post
on the blog. I know about every language BUT python, so I
can try to learn python this weekend and assist in coding
later if absolutely necessary; Would it be possible to
work without the configurator?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all
current elements - and links to the SVG source and XCF
source are directly below the image. I'll be downloading
some themes that resemble mine (in their technical
composition) and start to figure out how we could get
this beast into a live environment! The XCF source is
almost useless, but it can make life easy if anyone wants
to make a mockup with icons & text.
The large mockup doesn't include the most recent requests
(several of which will be integrated), but it gives the
closest impression to what a full desktop would look like
right now - barring the lack of widgets.
Thanks all;
-- Ken V
On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is
going into mockups. I need
> to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea
Cimitan, and see about getting
> information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I
start making the mockups
> live graphics.
Cimi will release the code when a Murrine
Configurator should be
available so we must work towards the murrine
configurator in pygtk.
take a look at
http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/
<http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/>
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