Hello, I only wanted to suggest you to look at this: http://architectfantasy.com/?p=1 http://architectfantasy.com/?p=25
I think that you should disscuss it, too. 2008/2/9, Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > (Should have changed topic title when we had the chance...) > > A little applet I have been working on (very slowly) is designed to > separate the idea of a window and the process that creates it, as the two > concepts should be. It is effectively a fancy window switcher, but the magic > is with an idea that each window is grouped with its parent process. This > means we can get the one (and only) intuitive behaviour that people see with > MacOS's unified menu bar (where Preferences, Quit, etc. are all under a menu > for the *program*). It also encourages an idea of keeping processes > running even when windows are closed, which is really the only feature > necessary to be as "intutive" as the OSX dock. > > Launchers, in this case, are irrelevent -- especially when we consider the > very stable nature of the ideal Linux system, which certainly does not > necessitate restarting the computer very often. The idea is that processes > can keep running quietly, providing services (for example fancy d-bus > stuff!) without intruding, and without their presence being invisible to the > user. In this way, one *needn't *navigate the menu to open Epiphany the > hundredth time in a session, because the browser provides some little > callbacks for its process icon in the new application list applet as one of > its functions not tied to windows. (One callback being to the left click > function, which triggers it to open a new window!). > > > Bye, > --Dylan McCall > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Álvaro Medina Ballester < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thinking about the idea of merging window selector and app launcher... > > imagine that theoric bar (let's call it uBar), you have firefox, evolution, > > mplayer and vlc running. Firefox is your most used browser, evolution _is > > not_ your most used mail client and vlc is your most used video player. If > > you click on browser, mail or video section, that bar _should not_ open > > another window, should execute Exposé (on Mac OS X, I think it's window > > selector on compiz-fusion) but just showing windows of the category you've > > clicked on. > > > > So we have one click app launcher and one click window selector. And you > > don't have to look in a lot of windows because you show windows depending on > > the category. I think that this would solve that problems with simplicity in > > a user-friendly intuitive way and we can make it eye candy too! > > > > 2008/2/8, Álvaro Medina Ballester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Hi everybody! > > > > > > I was wondering how could be that app launcher and this is my point of > > > view: > > > > > > First of all, I think that having a KDE/Windows menu is unusable. Why? > > > you need several clicks to open recent apps so if you use an aplication > > > frequently it slows your workflow. Mac OS X bar is a good approach, but it > > > still can be optimized. How? instead of having icons with apps we can have > > > sections (browsers, file managers, media players...) and one icon > > > representing each section. One click in that icon (for example, internet > > > browsers) would open the most used browser and holding click into that > > > section would show something like Leopard stacks with all the browsers. > > > Then > > > if you release the mouse button over any browser it should be opened. > > > > > > I'm sure that this idea can be improved, but what do you think about > > > it? it think that it would provide a great way to open/browse your > > > applications. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > 2008/2/8, Andrew Laignel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > Sumit Chandra Agarwal wrote: > > > > > I do like this idea very much, but I think there would be a lot of > > > > > resistance to it as I think people like having their desktop as a > > > > junk > > > > > store. > > > > > Or maybe they're just too used to the idea. > > > > > But it gets a thumbs-up from me! Its mildly annoying to me that > > > > > Firefox/etc don't use the home folder or home/downloads as the > > > > default > > > > > save to. > > > > > > > > > If you think about it files should go in /home/ and nowhere else. > > > > Storing them on the desktop is about as sensible as storing them in > > > > the > > > > system tray. It's only the colossal weight of history behind the > > > > whole > > > > 'save to your desktop' thing. It just means you have more places to > > > > check when looking for things. > > > > > > > > A solution may be to treat the desktop as /home/ - so it is the same > > > > place - only by default do not show any icons or folders. Clicking > > > > the > > > > Home Folder Icon will display in the gap to the RHS a box with the > > > > files/folders that is navigable. If it loses focus, or you click > > > > the > > > > icon again, it would disappear. Dropping files on the desktop would > > > > copy them to /home/ > > > > > > > > While on the subject someone mentioned splitting files and folders > > > > distinctly, IE put the rows of folders at the top of the window, a > > > > small > > > > gap, then the files. This would help people differentiate between > > > > whats > > > > in a folder, and other folders. > > > > > > > > Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk <http://jhnet.co.uk/> wrote: > > > > > The proposition of a new menu is a good idea however I do not like > > > > the > > > > > menus that people are coming out with that work like the > > > > > SuSE/KDE4/Vista menus - how is it possibly a good idea to 1) Have > > > > a > > > > > programs list that *SCROLLS*, 2) Have all the programs at the top > > > > of > > > > > the menu (when you open the menu by clicking something underneath > > > > it). > > > > I think the main menu bar needs to go at the bottom, otherwise it > > > > makes > > > > it harder to deal with the full screen windows. I don't think > > > > inversely > > > > sorting it is a good idea either so that little extra mouse movement > > > > I > > > > think may be unavoidable. :) > > > > > Sure we need a better system but whatever is invented should not > > > > be a > > > > > traditional pop up menu. What would probably be a very good idea > > > > is a > > > > > task bar widget that displays your most frequently used/last used > > > > > programs as shortcut icons next to the traditional menus. This > > > > means > > > > > that it is accessible to newcomers because they don't need to > > > > actively > > > > > do something to put the icons there, adds the functionality of a > > > > > recently used list (which KDE has had for eons), but most > > > > importantly > > > > > it gives *single click* access to programs! > > > > That may work. Firefox + Thunderbird are 'pinned' - maybe pinned > > > > software should display as icons on the quicklaunch - so anything > > > > you > > > > use regularly = 1 click. Say the top 5 items on the recent list > > > > display > > > > as icons in the quicklaunch. This may confuse people as they would > > > > change without user intervention so maybe pinned only is best? > > > > > > > > Travis Watkins wrote: > > > > > Actually, the desktop effectively does not exist exactly because > > > > it is > > > > > covered almost all the time. This is probably why people don't > > > > worry > > > > > about using it as a junk store, they never see it unless they're > > > > > diving in there to get something anyway. Kind of like the junk > > > > drawer > > > > > on your real desk. :) > > > > > > > > > It's more like leaving junk on your desk when you should put it in > > > > your > > > > drawer, to the point your desk just becomes another storage area > > > > (bad) > > > > instead of a useful place for doing tasks (good). Can't find you > > > > phone > > > > because of all the crap on your desk? It's the same thing. > > > > > > > > My point is that the desktop should be used more as a form of UI, > > > > not as > > > > yet another place to store files. By mixing app launchers, shortcuts > > > > and > > > > files on the desktop you confuse people about what does > > > > what. Generally > > > > if someone has a desktop covered with crap its because they don't > > > > understand the computer well enough to know that they should keep it > > > > in > > > > /home/. Forcing good practice isn't really a bad idea. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ubuntu-art mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Álvaro. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Álvaro. > > -- > > ubuntu-art mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- Regards, Zaryk
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