On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> put simply, colour should be used primarily to the ends of improving >> usability in a desktop, not merely to make it 'distinct' (an empty and >> vain project when taken on its own..). the desperate and abstract >> attachment to brown is really starting to show it's age. this is >> something people other than those of us on this list are perfectly >> willing to admit.. > > I haven't seen one color substitute that solves the problem. People try to > use orange, and then the entire system becomes orange. There is no subtlety. > No color use, just color replacements. I don't want a wallpaper that is > completely brown, but I can use a wallpaper that has some brown in it. > > I myself like the red color in the Ubuntu logo, but that doesn't mean I want > to see the entire desktop done in that red. I think something nice could be > made by pulling and focusing on any one color in to some design. Even brown > or orange. I just haven't seen it yet. It has been more like buckets of > color combined with a paint roller to change a room, instead of using a fine > brush to create a few <insert color here> elements on a canvas. It isn't > like the color brown is avoided by all designers in the world. There are > plenty of references out there to find. > >> we, the designers and/or art testers, haven't yet proven that brown was >> any more than than as a thinly veiled attempt to be distinct within a >> world of blue and brushed-metal desktops. > > I always saw that as the challenge. Maybe it is too big of a challenge for a > community maintained design project, but I'm sure it could be done. > > I think Cory's comment regarding individual teams could be explored in a > more structured manner. Since there is no official team, and the guidelines > come off as loosely orientated as the mock ups, then why not have a wiki > that reflects this? Instead of (to borrow a term) design-by-amoeba, let > like-minded people clump together in pockets, define their own guidelines, > and then show what they've got. There are obviously people who like Kith, > orange, the lack of animals, etc...they should get together under one wiki > heading and do it, without trying to get approval from the entire community. > Because that will never happen. It would be more like, "Here is our team, > here are our guidelines. We are trying to achieve THIS look and feel. We > hate brown and avoid using it. We hope you like our show." Just OWN it. If > it flies, it flies. The ml wastes its time arguing about things like colors > vs colors. > > Well well well. While writing this I have seen Who's response and link to > Cory's past convo about sub-teams. This is exactly what I am getting at. It > seems no ideas are original, eh? > > I realize nothing prevents people from forming their own teams, but if it > were encouraged and there were visible splits at the wiki instead of a > hodge-podge of everyone's work all sprinkled here and there, ultimately > hoping to be grabbed by one person who may or may not pass it on to another > Mark...well you see where I'm going. > > Regardless, I am more inclined to listen to the observations of people like > Cory, Who, etc... who have been around the block so to speak, and have > survived through years of watching how things have gone down. > > Salane, you were in a chat with Mark, came back to the list like gangbusters > and tried to get things organized. It is a valiant effort but I think it > starts from too broad a perspective. That energy would be better spent > working with a team of people who agree with your general take on The State > of Things. In addition, the experience just isn't there (with the history of > the art team at Ubuntu) and I, also a new-comer, sense a lot of eye-rolling. > Well, hey. I'll just speak for myself: My eyes roll a lot. > > > Ashton > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > >
Yeah I have done so. I have put together a few people to work on a theme. Starting this weekend I want to begin in force. We will take in everything from all perspectives and hopefully deliver an awesome theme. I really dont care how long people have been here so much; it seems like this Art Team is incredibly unorganized and has never done anything to the point of redesigning everything. Our icons were boughtl the font comes from upstream; and the theme is lackluster. I hope no one is offended. -- Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-art mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
