On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 14:38 +0000, Joseph wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:41:05 -0500 > From: Joseph <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression Alpha 5 > To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Joseph <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Joseph <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:44 PM, John Baer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 06:54 +0000, Jonathan Blackhall wrote: > >>> > >>> > Pardon my ignorance, but I don't quite "get" the circles. What > do > >>> > they tell > >>> > me about their purpose? If I didn't already know what the 3 > buttons > >>> > at the > >>> > top right of the screen did, I wouldn't know what these buttons > do. > >>> > Isn't > >>> > the purpose of the buttons to be at least loosely descriptive of > what > >>> > the > >>> > user can expect when they press them? I'm also not familiar > with OS > >>> > X, so I > >>> > have the same trouble with their red, yellow and green. > >>> > > >>> > I'm not normally a fan of the "Ubuntu should not try to be like > OS X" > >>> > argument, but I think in this case it's relevant. Why are you > trying > >>> > to > >>> > mimic what I'd consider to be a poor design choice? > >>> > >>> Jonathan, > >>> > >>> Thank you for the question. The desire to use circles for frame > control > >>> widgets is not from OSX. The symbolism comes from the Ubuntu logo. > As > >>> the Impression theme design is based on Ubuntu, IMO it makes > sense. > >>> > >>> As the widgets are small it is difficult to craft icons which > display > >>> detail. However, if you hover your mouse over the widget a > description > >>> is display which should novice users. > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ubuntu-art mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > >>> > >> > >> Hi, I'd like to chime in here. I understand both sides of the > "don't be > >> like like OSX" argument and say that I beleive that we should at > least to > >> some extent attempt to differentiate ourselves from OSX and other > OS'es as > >> well, to create a unique branding, rather than come off as > "copycats". > >> Although, if we are able to take the 3 circle theme and "make it > ours" then > >> we are just as well off. My only question is whether we will be > able to pull > >> that off or whether people will always associate the 3 circles with > OSX, > >> rather than Ubuntu. > >> > >> As far as usability goes, I beleive that the colors themselves > convey the > >> use. Which unfortunately means that it will not be very accessible > to color > >> blind people. For Macintosh, who's market is mainly artists, this > is not a > >> huge problem. But for Ubuntu, who prides itself on "accessibility > to all", > >> this could pose a significant issue. I'm not sure that "hovering to > find the > >> use" is a very convenient idea. Since color blind folks may not > remember it > >> anyways if they can't tell the diffrenece between yellow and > orange. > >> > >> Just my 2? > > > > > > Ok, I presented a problem. Now here is my solution. There are 2 ways > to > > make visual components accessible to everyone: through use of color > > profiles, or use of shapes. Implementing color profiles for our > purposes, > > will most likely be rather complicated. So the easiest idea seems to > be > > changing the shapes of the buttons. > > > > Before we decide which shapes to use, let us consider the anatomy of > window > > manager buttons. What do I mean by this? I mean that IMHO each of > the 3 > > window manager buttons have their own visual cue words which may be > > associated with them. > > > > Maximize = exanding, increasing, moving > > Minimize = shrinking, decreasing, slowing > > Close = closing, bold/strong, stopping > > > > So how can we express these visual cues, without sacrificing our > idea of > > colored circles? Well, the first way is by placing shapes within > circles, > > which many will automatically people will shake their heads at, due > to the > > complexity of such a design. So my solution is as follows: change > the > > *outline thickness* of the circles to reflect the action that it > represents. > > For example: > > > > Maximize = bold outline > > Minimize = thin outline > > Close = filled cirlce or very thick outline > > (see attached picture for details) > > > > I beleive that this solution will allow us to retain our original > color > > cues and basic shapes, as well as create a unique branding that may > only be > > associated with Ubuntu. > > > > Please let me hear your feedback! :) > > > >
Thanks for the feed back! I will give it a try this weekend. John -- ubuntu-art mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
