Andrew SB wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Cory K.<[email protected]> wrote:
>   
>> So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to
>> REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about
>> it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P
>>     
>
>
> Well, there's some work that probably needs to get done before it will
> get accepted.
>
> * License Review:
>   - COPYING (and debian/copyright) claim CC-BY-SA-3.0 while svg
> metadata says CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0
>   - Which is right?
>   - Are NC license "non-free"?
>   - Jakub Steiner listed in svg metadata, but not AUTHORS (and 
> debian/copyright)
>   - Oxygen team is in AUTHORS but not debian/copyright.
>
> I know in Debian, even though they now accept CC-3.0, NC is considered
> "non-free." I can't seem to find a clear statement on whether it's
> acceptable in Ubuntu Universe, but my feeling is that it is not.
>
> >From the Debian Free Software Guidlines FAQ:
> (http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html)
>
> "Q: Can I say "You must not use the program for commercial purposes"?
>
> A: This is non-free. We want businesses to be able to use Debian for
> their computing needs. A business should be able to use any program in
> Debian without checking its license."
>
> Anyone seen a definitive Ubuntu policy statement on this? Again, my
> inclination is that the license is "non-free." If someone wanted to
> roll a commercial Ubuntu derivative, in theory they should be able to
> redistribute anything in Universe with no problem.
>   

The 1st. CC-BY-SA-3.0 The metadata in the SVGs should be stripped. It's
a remnant of something that never worked. Oxygen is dual-licensed:
http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4

Jakub's build system was used but there's no "copyright" there I know
of. I'm just giving attribution/props. If the Oxygen team should be in
the debian/copyright then go ahead. I'm sure Ken can chime in. In the
end, no Oxygen will be used. That's the plan. It was/is simply to be
used as inspiration.

> I'm also still a bit unclear on if there are any actual Oxygen bits in
> there. Is it safe to add a note to AUTHORS saying that it's simply
> inspired by Oxygen, does the Oxygen team hold the copyright on
> anything in the theme?
>   

To my knowledge, only the base mime and bittorrent icons are. Daniel
might be able to shed more light on this.

> * Native package or not?
>  - I think that it shouldn't be a native package.
>   + Pros and Cons:
>
>    - In a native package, the versioning of the source package and the
> debian package are identical. This gets problematic when doing things
> like making a packaging bug fix upload to Ubuntu only. The version
> number will be bumped, even though there hasn't actually been an
> upstream release and the only changes are in the debian dir.
>   - Would mean making a tarball release along with the drag-and-drop release.
>   - Most Ubuntu artwork packages are native packages, but while
> Breathe is designed with Ubuntu in mind there's nothing stopping other
> distros from shipping it.
>
> Either way, it's not really a big deal. I just think that it shouldn't
> technically be a native package. (To the uninitiated, simply should
> the Ubuntu version be 0.44 or 0.44-0ubuntu1)
>   

As this is a Ubuntu project by and for it's community it will be a
native package for now.

> * Other trivial bits (ie not very important, but worth fixing).
>  - Since Ken changed the build system, the INSTALL file doesn't
> actually apply anymore
>  - NEWS and README are empty files (remove or write something?)
>   

Nix them then.

>  - No upstream changelog (running the following before releasing will
> create a GNU style changelog based on the bzr commits: "bzr log -v
> --gnu-changelog > ChangeLog") Do we care or need it?
>   

For me, the BZR log is the change log. This is something we gotta look
at. If the BZR log can create/write the changelog.

>  - Ubuntu packages should close a needs-packaging bug on initial upload
>   

Unless this is something new, I've never heard of this. I don't think
it's necessary.

> The licensing bit is really the most important part. I wouldn't ACK a
> someone else's package on review as it is now.
>   

Hopefully my answers help.


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