And one more thing, now speaking of the present. Right now Finery themes which beat all Windows, Mac and GNOME themes put together (except for window decorations, which are better to take from light-themes), are fully implemented and polished. Those themes were designed specifically for Ubuntu. Why didn't the design take them (improve, if they don't like some parts) and make them default? I know the team has put a lot of effort into Ambiance and Radiance in Lucid, if they want to keep them, it's OK, but they should at least include Finery in Maverick by default, not in some nobody-knows-about-this-thing_0.23.1.deb!! Including only cathedral stuff by default is a really stupid idea.
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