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From: Andre Mangan <[email protected]>
Date: 11 June 2010 08:42
Subject: Re: Team Appointment Process - Poll
To: David Fawcett <[email protected]>




On 11 June 2010 02:49, David Fawcett <[email protected]> wrote:

> I read this post a couple of times and it seems to me that you are
> complaining that there aren't enough people actively involved in the process



No, David, not complaining, just stating a fact.  Those people who are
currently active in Ubuntu-Au are a tiny portion of the total membership.


> and then blaming the people who are bothered to get involved in the process
> for being lazy?


Where did you get that idea from?  I am involved and I am not lazy.

You might want to rethink your position.
>

That comment I would consider as rude.

I think that you should read my post yet again.  You seem to have
misunderstood.  If there is anything unclear, please say so and I will try
to explain it to you.

Andre




> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Andre Mangan <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> All these polls, whether they are for governance structures or IRC meeting
>> times are totally valueless unless the main body of Ubuntu users in
>> Australia come out of their hiding places and declare their wishes.
>>
>> The current poll on governance registers the opinions of 18 Ubuntu users.
>> Hardly a representative sample and certainly not a valid nor acceptable vote
>> (as was the vote on IRC meeting times).
>>
>> Reading the minutes of the last IRC meeting, I noticed the brave mention
>> of "should we revisit the time set aside for these meetings".  There is no
>> point in asking the converted, you need to ask the 200+ registered ubuntu-au
>> members.
>>
>> Elect a representative, a governor if the term pleases you, and let this
>> person drive the push to rejuvenating Ubuntu-au and ultimately
>> re-accreditation.
>>
>> To those who seek refuge behind the voluntary nature of ubuntu-au and
>> therefore claim that they cannot exercise any authority, I would remind them
>> that many ubuntu-au users have signed the code of conduct and thereby have
>> placed themselves under the jurisdiction of the requirements of Launchpad
>> and Ubuntu.
>>
>> "Laissez-faire" is just another term for administrative laziness.
>>
>> Andre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 June 2010 14:07, Lisa Milne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:32:29 +1000
>>> andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I have created a poll on the appointment process for team positions.
>>> >
>>> > http://www.doodle.com/pn7hyxe77wwr8bka
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > HOW TO VOTE CARD
>>> >
>>> > Meritocracy - Keep the current process.
>>> >
>>> > Democracy - Everybody has a say in who is appointed to the leadership
>>> > team.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Andrew G.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > ubuntu-au mailing list
>>> > [email protected]
>>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
>>>
>>> This poll wasn't discussed or suggested at the meeting, therefore I'm
>>> calling it "Andrew's personal poll" and ignoring it.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lisa Milne <[email protected]>
>>>
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>>>
>>
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