While you're here! and work at Canonical (and only if you want to
reply), is there any long term plans for the company and the distro?
You mentioned the early days 2004-2006 where for me it felt like getting
the Linux desktop usable was a big project, I tried various distros and
felt they were seriously awful until I started with 7.04.
2007-2012 was when I got actively involved because despite Ubuntu being
usable it was still very very buggy, 12.04 was the first of the big
releases where I felt like Ubuntu was as stable as Windows and I slowly
dropped off since then, I haven't had any crashes or bugs in a while
now.
I remember that I felt like the app store was next to take off and I
haven't heard much since then.
Are there any long term plans anywhere, like does the company have goals
for 22.04 or 24.04? - David
On 2020-08-12 16:45, Trent Lloyd wrote:

Bret, I am subscribed to both the AU and WA lists and did see a couple of your previous e-mails - I had intended to reply to a couple of the more recent ones although I forgot about them at the time and they since got long buried into my very much not-zero inbox. Since the thread popped up again and I have time this moment I am replying to let you know :) Looking at the long e-mail delivery delay you mentioned the reply hit the Canonical server back in July before being held for that roughly month period and then sent on from the same server. Most likely that server is the mailman mailing list server and the post was held for moderation for some reason (such as being sent from a different email address than the one which they are subscribed from). Likely someone with moderator access got around to cleaning up the backlog and approved it some long time later. From the list archives [3] you can see that in practice both lists are pretty much un-used these days and hark back to the early era of Ubuntu (ahh, memories of 2004-2006+, when I was a very early Ubuntu user thanks to linux.conf.au [4] and some UCC members!) where mailing lists were more popular - the ubuntu-au list did get some usage in the sortof 2014 and earlier era but much less content in the last few years. You do seem to have the distinction of being the only poster for the 2 archived messages [5] to ubuntu-au-wa though :) Seems it has otherwise never been used, I only subscribed to it because I was hunting through the list of lists to subscribe to back when I joined Canonical in 2016 (after your first post, before your second one) - and I'm only subscribed from my work e-mail and not my personal one (I guess echoing the sentiment about mailing list deprecation these days :). It seems to be the only state-based list [6] so it's existence is somewhat of a historical curiosity :) Generally speaking I think the avenues for communication these days are much less location-based and there is a list here https://ubuntu.com/#community - I would say the most popular ones would be askubuntu.com [7], https://discourse.ubuntu.com/, https://ubuntuforums.org/ and maybe IRC :) Cheers, Trent @lathiat Lloyd Perth, Australia (These days working at Canonical since 2016 - but a very long time community member since 2004). On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 06:02, Bret Busby <bret.bu...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 19/07/2020, Keith bainbridge <keithr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 18/7/20 9:37 am, Bret Busby wrote:
Hello.

As a list also exists for WA, but that list appears to be inactive, I
am curious as to whether anyone in addition to me, on this list, is in
WA.


I'm in Victoria if that helps.

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Keith Bainbridge

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0447 667468


No - it was a contextual question - The WA list has had only one one
two posts, both from me, I believe, and it may be that I am the only
one apart from its List Administrator, subscribed to that list, so I
asked whether anyone else on this list, is in WA.

One thing that I find curious about your message, is the number of
weeks it took to get from gmail to being distributed by the mailing
list;

"
Original message

Message ID      <638a1ffd-c10d-d361-6161-7757f29b5...@gmail.com>
Created on:     19 July 2020 at 07:13 (Delivered after 1996353 seconds)
From:   Keith bainbridge <keithr...@gmail.com>
To:     ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject:        Re: Anyone on this list in WA
"

and

"
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=huckleberry.canonical.com [1])
by huckleberry.canonical.com [1] with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from
<ubuntu-au-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com>) id 1k5Qqd-0005sp-FT; Tue, 11 Aug
2020 09:45:35 +0000
Received: from mail-pl1-f181.google.com [2] ([209.85.214.181]) by
huckleberry.canonical.com [1] with esmtps
(TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from
<keithr...@gmail.com>) id 1jx3Vv-0001xn-2R for
ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 07:13:35 +0000
Received: by mail-pl1-f181.google.com [2] with SMTP id t6so7235152plo.3
for <ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com>; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 00:13:34 -0700
(PDT)
"

I haven't seen email being transmitted so slowly, for several years
now, when iinet took two or three weeks for email to be transmitted
from the Perth CBD to the outer suburbs of Perth - I could have walked
that distance in a day, faster than iinet's email transmission at that
time. We switched from iinet, after the problems with their email, and
have not regretted it.

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Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
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