I wouldn't offer them for free imho?
unless you can find such a sponsor?
Flemish gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-)

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen <[email protected]> wrote:

> The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking
> sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Some more advantages:
>  It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
> version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity becomes
> outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.
>
> It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
> quicker too.
>
> Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike the
> CD. We would have to charge money.
>
> A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead
> before the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
> If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer the
> usage of my bvba.
>
> Cheers,
> Jan.
>
> On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Hey Steven
>>
>> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I
>> think it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
>> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea
>> on: 
>> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
>> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011>I'll
>> also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting (26/05/2011). Feel
>> free to discus it there as well.
>>
>> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I can
>> think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):
>> - More durable than a CD
>> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)
>> - Can be updated
>> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you like)
>> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising for
>> us. (Free Publicity)
>> - Also works for Netbook owners
>> - Really awesome goodie.
>> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once
>> we finally create it..)
>>
>> grts
>>
>>
>> Wouter
>>
>> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200  <[email protected]>[email protected]:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if I
>> could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France.
>> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a 1GB
>> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who
>> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... Gained
>> another Ubuntero.
>>
>> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks...
>> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem...
>>
>> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...
>>
>> <http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874>
>> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
>> 4gbyte usb stick
>> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport
>>
>> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me
>> following prices:
>>
>> model "Usb Incentive" : 
>> <http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html>
>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
>> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them
>> Price/piece: €7,66
>> Logo Print: €0,10
>> Transport (China): €20,-
>> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)
>>
>> 1 GB 2.0  -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for
>> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)
>> Price/piece €5,26
>> Logo Print: €0,10
>> Transport (China): €20,-
>> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)
>>
>> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB
>> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) *including printing of
>> the logo in 2 colors.*
>> Printing costs per color are €0,05.
>>
>> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal
>> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models?
>> <http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html>
>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html
>>  ...
>> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your
>> usb-ports  can't handle "wide" carts...
>> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick.
>>
>> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say?
>>
>> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them with a
>> small profit...
>> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...;
>> - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb ports
>> atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we aren't
>> talking about USB hubs)
>> - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except
>> when you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a "clock"?)
>> - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with something
>> else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick.
>>
>> Maybe this can result in a nice discussion?
>>
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