in dutch: 'hopla'. Thats what I call putting the whip on :pYou're doing great 
already..
now the only thing you should do is lose that iPhone and use an android phone :p
grts

From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:37:01 +0200
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament 
REPORT - 02/06/11

Whiplash is my middle name ;-)If no-one has objections to me taking the lead, 
I'll organize an installment meeting for the ISO team somewhere next week.

Sent from my iPhone

On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:34, wouter Vandenneucker <[email protected]> wrote:


Sounds great! good to have you on board.We aren't asking that you give up your 
work or such.. :pSo we can count on you to give people a whiplash if things are 
starting to stall? :p

grts

wouter

From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:17 +0200

To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament 
REPORT - 02/06/11


As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full renovation, 
fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to contribute something to 
Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to  become the "project manager" for the Belgian ISO.


Kindest regards,
Martijn

Sent from my iPhone
On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker <[email protected]> wrote:




IRC "ISO/USB Project" Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June 
2011Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (epfsug.eu European 
Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra, LarsB, warddr, 
jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn

(note: this isn't a "regular" weekly meeting)



Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these 
projectsExtra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament



= ISO =

To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going to 
make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life easier for 
Belgian Users.

We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be 
updated..)

We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to 
dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!

The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small 
decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.


PROJECT GUIDELINES:Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team 
should try to endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of 
Ubuntu need to be taken in account.

A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the 11.04 
ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)


Values:- We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a 
minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for belgian 
citizens.

- No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and ubuntu 
values)- Support to the Ubuntu guidelines

- Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with video's we 
make)- Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software 
center, we should make people use it!

- Keeping things simple- No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a 
specific type of user.


Needed:

- Both a 32bit and a 64bit version- Fully supported languages by default: en, 
de, nl, fr (as default boot language English is suggested)

- Based on Ubuntu 11.04- Only Gnome classic and Unity interface- AZERTY by 
default

- USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in live 
mode.- Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.

- E-ID program and driver
Unwanted:

- PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security 
breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]

- Extra DE's- Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras

- 'professional' software- Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default 
fallback and stable enough for us to integrade.)

- Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for the time the 
ubuntu version is supported.


Wanted:- (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install proces

- Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice (U-fr uses 
only persistent)


What we might want to add (later):
- Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to know their 
system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to follow        Videos showing 
apps that might be usefull for some but not for all can be handled here so 
people find their way to them..

- A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and Desktop 
Wallpapers is adviced.       Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress 
templates, the Desktop Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..

        might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..   we 
could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper

- We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a kubuntu one, or a 
rescue version..)



= USB =The ISO we make should find it's way to belgian ubuntu users. We need a 
way to get it out. One of these ways is a USB drive.

CDs are slow and netbooks (often) come without a CD drive, selling USBs instead 
of giving away CDs sets Ubuntu-be on its way to the future.As with the ISO 
team, we need people who believe in this project and put their wings underneath 
it to make it fly.

A leader for this project has the same job as the ISO leader: make sure the 
project keeps going and doesn't stall or bleed to dead.Participants to this 
projects and candidate leaders: step forward.

A WIKIpage should be created for this.
PROJECT GUIDELINES:

These guidelines are just a beginning, the USB team should try to endorse them 
and add more detail to them. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu need to 
be taken in to account.

We should try to finish the USB project within the same period as the ISO 
project is finished. Collaboration between the ISO project and the USB project 
is crusial.


The hardware:

- 4GB- The logo must say Ubuntu-be.org instead of just Ubuntu-be.

        woutervddn will make some logos somewhere next week, feel free to make 
your own. The logo is our billboard, it should look amazing!

- No fancy stick, just a color imprint 2 colors, 1 side (except if 2nd side 
would be free)- getting a sample USB stick to testdrive first is an extreme 
PLUS (So we can see how fast it is and the quality..)

- Speed of the stick is very important (both read and write)


The software:- 1 partition (we don't want windows to ask our users to format 
the drive, a PERSONAL DATA map or similiar is suggested to keep users from 
putting their stuff anywhere though)


General:

- People need to choose if they want 32bit or 64bit on the USB stick.- Vendor 
is choosen once the ISO is (almost) ready [so after the exams]

- We don't need to top the budget, keeping prices low is a good thing (although 
we shouldn't pay attention to this if we can get an extreme amount of benefit 
from it)

- we might try to find a sponsor, or a partner for this- we should ask shops 
and other compagnies who sell/give ubuntu systems. (multiseatcomputer, 
wegetit.be, others on our website.)

        as jurgen said: the ones on our site... they all take pride in selling 
Ubuntu... I think we should challenge them ;)

- Pre-order like the shirts would be great
Ubuntu-fr:

Ubuntu-fr has a similar project, we can always aks help.


- Ubuntu-fr gets their sticks from flashbay, speed seems to be a huge deal. 
(they tested)- Ubuntu-fr contact: 
https://launchpad.net/~framakey-ubuntu-fr-remix-dev/+members ( pyg is the most 
capable to talk about the speed of the keys, followed by rmy but he's really 
busy atm organising the rmll)



=GENERAL=

- We need leaders for these projects and we also need participants. If you are 
willing to help with one or more of these projects, please step forward.

- It is adviced that we have a blog or something else that shows interesting 
content when people using our iso open the webbrowser. We want them to keep 
Ubuntu-be as their default homepage.

- Congradulations to jurgentje, he's pregnant (well actually his wife is)..



= UBUNTU FEST AT THE EURPEAN PARLIAMENT =ehj has asked us if we could hold an 
ubuntu fest at the European Parliament. epfsug is ground breaking concidering 
the way things go in the EP, if this takes off it would open doors for ubuntu 
and FOSS. Because many members of the EP aren't really in love with FOSS we 
might want to add another FOSS group to the agenda (libreoffice, FireFox, EFF, 
APRIL...).

They currently have a test program where users have a triple boot on their 
laptops (ubuntu being 1 of them..)Find out more about the European Parliament 
Free Software Users Group at epfsug.eu

Things they are working on can be found at http://pad.epfsug.eu
More info about our project with epfsug can be found on: 
http://pad.telecomix.org/epfsug--ubuntu-be


What:

- it needs to be something Fun and Interesting- we might want to concider 
giving an USB-stick to each attending Belgian MEP

- fest might also include key signing an install party. 


When:- Although we were asked to do something before their summerbreak we 
realize that might not be ideal. Therefore we are planning to hold a small 
meeting in July and hold a 'big' meeting september, jurgentje adviced somewhere 
around software freedom day (saturday 17th of September).

- pink or blue dates are good dates to organize an event on: 
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/pdf/general/cal2011.pdf

- we're holding a prep meeting in july
Who:

- Participants are wanted for this fest.- A talk from a high profile ubuntu 
member would be great! Ideas?


Other:

- we might need our rollouts sooner than planned..- seperate flyers for the EP 
would be nice..

- we'll discuss this more during the meeting of next week.- more details will 
follow

                                          
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