Tim Post wrote: > Sorry folks, I'm done promoting Ubuntu. The lack of response from Ubuntu > tells all, barring a few emails from Mark asking us to STFU. > > Redhat negotiated the first patent deal that is agreeable with GPL3, > what has Ubuntu done other than tweak the work of others (i.e Debian) ? > > Good luck Mark.. >
Tim, all of the distributions face this question with Mozilla, and Ubuntu is directly involved in the design of a positive resolution. If it were not for our active engagement with Mozilla, I assure you the outcome would have been much less palatable even than this current state. You suggest that my unwillingness to detail every conversation or respond with my heart on my sleeve in public represents assent and support for the current situation. That is not the case. We are in the middle of a careful discussion with Mozilla, and I am not going to bring delicate, confidential discussions into this public forum. I trust you understand that would undermine our ability to get the best result for our users and for the free software community at large. I firmly believe this *will* be resolved in a constructive fashion, and I believe it's our willingness to engage carefully and confidentially with Mozilla, rather than hurl abuse from a distance, that will give us the best chance of a positive outcome. I am not asking anybody to STFU. I'm asking that people consider seriously the impact their words have on the quality of conversation that we can have. Resolutions to this sort of debate never come from abusive commentary. They just NEVER do. Venting and insulting someone else may make you feel immediately better, but so does relieving yourself on your own doorstep. For good reason, I would ask you use the privy ;-) We have a code of conduct in Ubuntu precisely because we know that many of these issues touch on deeply held beliefs. Those discussions are hard enough as it is - they become impossible when people publicly insult one another. Please respect and follow the code of conduct here: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct If I was a Mozilla person reading this bug report, I could easily take the position that the Ubuntu community is nasty, ill informed, insulting, childish, and selfish. If that were true, then Ubuntu would also not be relevant for very long, so I would have no incentive to address their concerns. Careless words in this public forum will only serve to reduce the seriousness with which Mozilla will take this matter. Mark -- AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/269656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
