ok, so i was searching around here trying to find someone else with
problems similar to mine, and found someone could connect using sudo
dhclient, so i tried that, connected, then started the update manager,
just to see if there was anything, which there was, but it didnt fix
anything.

i also figured that it is compiz, and will be filing the bug at
somepoint later.

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