>
> We are closing this bug report because it lacks the information we need
> to investigate the problem, as described in the previous comments.
Because no one with a running 8.10 would spend 10 min to make a check, I 
have spent almost 10 hours of my unavailable time on this and here's the 
result ...

1) another more powerful laptop was passing by, with a chance to install 
Wine while running liveCD, and I hired it for a while
2) I downloaded and burned 8.10 desktop iso (on 8.04.1+)
Brasero told me that there was a burn error but the CD seemed perfect
3) I booted this CD and, not a given thing, WiFi was running
I ran Synaptic and, despite all sources turned on and updated, there was 
no "wine" to find !!!
4) I asked the owner of this laptop if I could make a partition and he 
agreed if I explained him how to make a backup and I made one
5) I fetched and burned 8.10 desktop (on 8.04.1+ again)
Brasero told me that there was a burn error but the CD was perfect
I looked into that, Brasero reports a 'device busy' error and it seems 
obvious that it's because the disk has an autorun using the drive at the 
same time Brasero wants to check the CD. This seems to be Bug #296146 
and I wonder why that bug is "incomplete".
6) I wanted to test upgrading 8.04 to 8.10 and, after doing so, WiFi was 
not working. This is another bug that took me much time to work around. 
Also, there was no shutdown applet but someone who would argue it's just 
aesthetics.
7) Having upgraded, I finally found wine in Synaptics and I finally was 
able to make the test.

Is that what you required?
That laptop will be away in two weeks.
Please don't wait until then to ask more questions about 8.10.

Almost one year after reporting this bug, the same problem remains 
exactly as described, in 8.04.1+ and 8.10+.

Is making these sorts of difficult to do tests the good method to solve 
the problem?  Or shouldn't the problem rather be analyzed, which I can 
help effectively with 8.04 tests when I'm at it without having to 
install systems that only other people run?

Friends I advised running Windows applications on 8.04.1 are asking if a 
patch will be available for their system and when. What should I reply 
to help them not return to Windows?

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