If you accept that it makes sense to allocate on rename commits for overwrites of *existing* files, it follows that it makes sense to commit on *all* renames. Otherwise, users can still see zero-length junk files when writing a file out for the first time. If an application writes out a file using the atomic rename technique, it should expect just as good a consistency guarantee when the file doesn't already exist as when it does. Anything else just adds extra complexity.
Before your knee jerks out "performance," consider that brand-new, throwaway files aren't renamed. gcc doesn't write a file out, only to rename it immediately. Only files for which atomicty matters are renamed that way -- which are precisely the files that would get the commit-on- rename treatment in other circumstances. The performance impact of committing on *all* renames would be minimal over the existing rename code. We keep talking in circles: if you're going to make a commitment to application reliability, go all the way and commit on all renames. Anything else is just a subtle gotcha for application programs. Yes, POSIX them harder, will you? NFS is a special case in that 1) it's widely known to have strange semantics, and 2) many applications explicitly don't support NFS for that reason. NFS semantics are *not* the ones we should be striving to emulate! Besides, the kind of inconsistency you see with NFS doesn't result in corrupt configurations in the same way the ext4 bug does. As for AFS: it has a special place in Hell. AFS doesn't even meet basic POSIX guarantees with regard to permissions. Its mind-bendingly stupid quota behavior is just icing on the cake. It's crap as a unix filesystem, and I sure as hell wouldn't consider using it except on a specially-prepared system. I'm not going to make my application jump through hoops to support your antiquated hack. Every other filesystem checks quotas on write and close; why does yours have to be different? -- Ext4 data loss https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/317781 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
