Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Jamin W. Collins: By "gratuitously difficult" I meant you had to (1) > notice the icon, (2) recall that orange starburst = updates available > (possibly assisted by a notification bubble, if you happened to look > during the time the bubble was visible), (3) click on it (the panel > icon, not the bubble!), and (4) click a button in a separate window. > With the behavior I designed, you needed to (1) click the button in the > window. With the 9.04 behavior you need to (1) notice the minimized > window, (2) unminimize it, and (3) click the button in the window. > That's not nearly as good, but it's still easier than the 8.10 behavior, > because the window switcher button is (usually much) larger than the > icon was. > > Uwe Schilling, Thomas Nardone: As I have already explained several > times, this is far from the only time programs need to open windows > unprompted; and conversely, even with a browser blocking popup windows, > a determined Web site author can still open popup windows or things that > look like windows. Therefore, trying to distinguish real prompts from > fake ones by whether they open manually or automatically is dangerously > wrong. Better defence mechanisms include making Web windows more > obviously non-native (with help from both the browser and the Ubuntu > theme), and more informative handling of downloaded executables (Windows > Vista and especially Mac OS X do a much better job of that than Ubuntu > does). > > pingou67: The old behavior was, and is, unacceptable with the > introduction of Notify OSD. "Click on the icon"? What icon? > > Imre Gergely: An option like that would be meaningless to most humans, > as you'd discover if you tried to mock it up. > > Keith Buel: We aim for the point where you wouldn't need to tell your > parents *anything* about keeping the computer up to date -- it would be > self-explanatory. The icon didn't meet that standard, and never could > without disrupting your work like Windows does. The updates window may > not meet that standard yet, but we'll fine-tune the design until it > does. > > hurga, James Dowden: You guys are adorable. > > Noel J. Bergman: I have seen no evidence, in this bug report or anywhere > else, of "the simple need for a form of persistent notification" for > software updates. The closest to this I've seen is a problem where alpha > testers tried to report crasher bugs on out-of-date packages and were > rejected, but apport could be smarter about inviting you to update, and > it's not as if Ubuntu is short of bug reports anyway. > > slithy: You have been misled. There is no other "method of handling > notifications for updates" planned. > wait for it...
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