Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> Uwe Schilling, Thomas Nardone: As I have already explained several
> times, this is far from the only time programs need to open windows
> unprompted; and conversely, even with a browser blocking popup windows,
> a determined Web site author can still open popup windows or things that
> look like windows. Therefore, trying to distinguish real prompts from
> fake ones by whether they open manually or automatically is dangerously
> wrong. Better defence mechanisms include making Web windows more
> obviously non-native (with help from both the browser and the Ubuntu
> theme), and more informative handling of downloaded executables (Windows
> Vista and especially Mac OS X do a much better job of that than Ubuntu
> does).

That was not the point I was making. The point is, that, yes, there are
applications that open pop-up windows on my computer. However, none of
these applications asks for the system password! Ever! If "some evil guy
from the internet" pretended to be my friend Bob and told me hi via
skype, I would soon find out because he doesn't know anything about me,
but nothing would be lost, if I asked back "How are you?". But now you
start teaching people to give their systm password to some arbitrary
pop-up windows. Do you agree that there is a difference if a pop-up
window has administrator status or not? That is the difference I am
pointing towards. So far, there was no higher interest in determining if
something was started by the actual application or if it just pretended
to be. At least, it was on immanent risk to your system. But by training
people to give their system password to pop-ups, it becomes one. That is
the point I want to make.

Making web windows look less native would definitely help to prevent
damage, but for the moment, they look pretty much alike. Thus, at least
for the next half year (until karmic) the danger I described persists.
And even afterwards, it does not seem obvios to me, that then everybody
will be able to distinguish the windows by their style. It still seems
to pose an unnecessary risk.

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