Hi tp42,

I haven't done it yet with Jaunty/external combo. When I feel brave
enough to try, I'll let you know if it works.

Seems to get tougher with each version,

Richard


  
On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 20:24 +0000, tp42 wrote:
> Dear Richard,
> 
> thanks a lot for  the tips on how to overcome the obstacles with network
> manager in Interpret and Jaunty.
> 
> I work on a fully patched Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty installation an try to get an 
> external USRobotics UBS dial-up modem online. No success so far, although I 
> got it to work with Ubuntu 8.10. Some details:
> - Setting up the dial-up connection was done with pppconfig
> - pon ISP and poff work with my user permissions, plog is only available via 
> sudo plog
> - ifconfig shows the ppp0 connection (DNS, IP, Gateway are all ok)
> - Network Tools show the ppp0 connection
> - NetworkManager Applet 0.7.0.100 does not realize ppp0.
> 
> I tried suggestion 1a and 1b. Both without success. Firefox, Evolution
> and other software still think, that there is no Internet connection.
> What could I else do to get the applications working correctly?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -- 
> Intrepid Network Manager Lacks Dial-up & Work-Around
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/359725
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> of the bug.
> 
> Status in “network-manager” package in Ubuntu: New
> 
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: network-manager
> 
> The lack of dial-up support is a huge handicap for Ubuntu in attracting new 
> users. Ubuntu should be a natural for millions of dial-up people because of 
> its lean resource requirements,-- and especially for those who dread tying up 
> their lines with Vista updates/SPs. While there was grudging dial-up support 
> in Feisty and Gutsy, the utter lack of it now with Intrepid is preventing 
> millions of people here in Canada and elsewhere from switching to Ubuntu. 
> Let's deal with the Intrepid/Ubuntu 8.10 challenges,-- and I'm being positive 
> here in the fact I'm writing on an Intrepid installation via dial-up on a 
> Winmodem, through Gnome-PPP, and without having Firefox "work Offline" 
> issues. While I've done this on multiple machines, the steps to get here asks 
> too much of many users,-- and therefore I'm urging that the dialup oversight 
> be fixed, possibly by giving the option of using the earlier NM or by 
> incorporating the earlier features.
> 
> Work-Arounds for Dial-up with Intrepid
> 
> 1. The lack of support for dial-up is one NM issue, but the other is its 
> interference with Firefox in causing the "Work Offline" annoyance. Fixes for 
> the Firefox annoyance range from
> (a) entering about:config in the Firefox address line and toggling the last 
> field of browser.offiine, browser.offline-apps.notify, and network.online to 
> false,
> (b) to the more extreme but powerful one of editing of NetworkManager.conf as:
>   sudo gedit /etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager.conf
> and replacing all instances of "allow" with "deny". When in doubt, save 
> back-up copies of any files you experiment with. My experience is that the 
> effectiveness of (a) seems to be mobo-specific, while (b) is 
> brute-force-effective.
> 
> 2. Now, while many dial-up people will simply pack it in on Intrepid, and 
> either stay with an earlier version or leave Ubuntu shaking their heads, here 
> are the steps on how to do it for many winmodems:
> (a) Check your modem chipset. If it's a Conexant marked with HSF, then you 
> can either download and purchase a kernel-specific driver from Linuxant, or 
> hybridize the necessary driver from Linuxant's free version 
> hsfmodem-7.80.02.03full.tar.gz (for user evaluation at 14.4 kB/s) and the 
> free Hardy driver hsfmodem-7.68.00.09oem.tar.gz on the Dell Ubuntu driver 
> site. I've tried the HSF drivers over a range of the corresponding modems and 
> found them to work well (the only problem I had was with a batch of older 
> Conexant modems bought on eBay). Driver coverage for other modems is patchy, 
> and for the cost of a modem, HSF is probably the easiest way to go. If you 
> want to verify that a modem will work, Linuxant has listings of makes and 
> chipsets on its website, along with a diagnostic program and instructions.
> 
> Since Dell doesn't yet supply the Intrepid HSF driver, here are the steps for 
> hybridizing to a full-speed driver:
> (i) Download the source Hardy hsfmodem-7.68.00.09oem.tar.gz from Dell and 
> hsfmodem-7.80.02.03full.tar.gz from Linuxant by Googling the filenames + 
> company names. Expand the packages and change to the storage location.
> (ii) Remove modules/imported from the Linuxant source directory.
>   sudo rm -r hsfmodem-7.80.02.03full/modules/imported
> (iii) Substitute modules/imported from the Dell Hardy driver source directory 
> to make the hybrid. 
>   sudo cp -r hsfmodem-7.68.00.09oem/modules/imported 
> hsfmodem-7.80.02.03full/modules/imported 
> (iv) Change to the Linuxant source and install.
>   cd hsfmodem-7.80.02.03full
>   sudo make install
> (v) Finally, configure.
>   sudo hsfconfig
> I found it was necessary just to hit enter at the prompts. Then restart. The 
> installation can be checked with 
>   sudo hsfconfig --info
> and the command set (including driver removal) is listed with
>   sudo hsfconfig --help
> 
> (b) Set up wvdial to update Add/Remove programs:
>   sudo wvdialconf  
>   sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
> Check and edit Username, Password, Phone, and the modem address (typically 
> Modem=/dev/ttySHSF0 for these modems).
> You can now dial and update (and access Firefox) after starting it in 
> terminal with 
>   sudo wvdial
> (c) Add Gnome-PPP from Add/Remove>All available applications. Gnome-PPP will 
> only run from root without changing permissions.
> (d) Gnome-PPP permissions:
> First, System>Administration>Users and Groups>Unlock>Manage Groups>Add 
> Group>dip>properties>tick username.
> Then
>   sudo chown root:dip /usr/sbin/pppd
>   sudo chmod 4754 /usr/sbin/pppd
>   sudo chmod 777 /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
>   sudo chmod 777 /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
>   sudo chmod 777 /etc/ppp/peers
> 
> With these changes, Intrepid works nicely on dial-up.     
> 
> Having recommended earlier Ubuntu versions for dial-up people experiencing 
> frustration in the MS world, I'd like to be able to do the same for Intrepid.
> 
> Richard
>

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