On 2010-03-13 21:30:38 -0000, eapache <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:
> I'm so sorry! I've been triaging and working on bugs filed against the
> "libpcap" package for a while now, and I only just realized that there
> are also bugs filed against the "libpcap0.8" package.

I'm really not happy with this.

This bug appeared in Ubuntu Jaunty and I submitted it a few days after
it's release (2009-04-29). It was not fixed and I did not even get a response.
A few days after Karmic's release (2009-08-17) where the bug was still
present I developed and submitted a patch. Again nothing happened (no reaction,
no thanks, no technical critics on the patch) - until 2010-03-13. And now you
say:

> I've added your patch as an attachment. I've also been in contact with
> upstream, and there is a new upstream version coming down the pipe in
> the next short while. I don't think there's much hope for karmic
> anymore, but I should be able to get this into Lucid one way or another.

-> no hope for Karmic? That means two complete Ubuntu versions with this bug.
Karmic is supposed to be supported until April 2011 (-> +1 year from now).

We are not discussing about a new feature or a new library version here.
It's a bugfix which could be added - quickly, after a code review.

Please note that Jaunty is also affected, which is supported until October
2010 - and where it will never be fixed.

In the past, new Ubuntu versions always introduced new bugs.

I.e. practical inusability of X11 on my graphic-chip on Jaunty which was
stable over years with previous Ubuntu versions. It was (partly) "fixed"
by advertising to upgrade to the release candidate of karmic; see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/
419958 [partly means: no crashes anymore (previously < 2 days); but in
karmic, sometimes characters are not display until you scroll or mark it with
your mouse..]
Or look at report https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575548 
(gnome-session-manager bug, on Intrepid); it was "fixed" with the upgrade to
Jaunty. But: Intrepid is still "supported" (until April 2010).

With Karmic, I've noted down about 35 new bugs (some of them were fixed over
the time, some goes daily on my nerves).
With a response time of 0.5-2 years to a bug submitted on launchpad and the
perspective to get a fix for the next or next-to-next Ubuntu version it's
not really motivating to invest the time to submit all the bugs I
discovered. Instead, it may be recommended to switch over to another linux
distribution - something I tried to avoid over the years, regardless how
unhappy I was.

Ubuntu has real, heavy problems. Because you as a maintainer are in a
better position to report the disappointments of the users about the
quality issues upstream, I've wrote my complains in detail here.
I've to stress that I do not blame you. It's also ok to "oversee" a
bug report. But due to my experience, it's a common problem ubuntu has -
and they have to solve this quality problem, otherwise users will leave. I've
the ear on the local community, and I know I'm not alone with my concerns.

Kind regards,

        - Thomas Osterried

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #575548
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575548

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