Ok thanks Kyle, sorry I took so long to reply I've been away from the computer. 
 I started without splash on and it crashes when after checking the battery 
state, while "*Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" I'll include the 
file in the brackets in a separate attachment in case its needed in the next 
post. 
     I also figured out that actually the crash is not or is no longer, 
preventing me from signing into the kernel if I use alt+ctrl+F1.  So guess its 
a problem with X loading.   I'm going to run those commands from Debugging 
Kernel Problems wiki again in case they help as well.

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Linux version 2.6.20-9.16 hard crashes
https://launchpad.net/bugs/88275

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