On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 09:53:38PM -0000, UnstableGhost wrote:
> > Please file a separate bug report, detailing how plymouth "doesn't handle"
> > nvidia drivers for you. For the vast majority of users, it's working as
> > intended.

> As far as I know KMS is not available for NVIDIA\ATI proprietary
> drivers, and plymouth without KMS is 16 color ugliness (ignoring that
> fact that I see blank screen for like 10 seconds, then ugly splash for 3
> and then blank screen again). That is what I call "does not handle", and
> if I understand right, that is what you call "working as intended". How
> many can have 16/24 bit splash, without blank screens, on a proprietary
> graphics drivers?

Yes, that's as intended.  It's not optimal, but there are a variety of
practical limitations that constrain us from providing the identical
experience with the proprietary drivers as with the free ones.

> > Because plymouth isn't a splash screen, it's a boot I/O multiplexer.

> Why not to split actual I/O multiplexer and graphical splash into two
> separate packages? So that the ones that dont need (on server) or don't
> want splash (KMSless users) can completely remove it.

Er, they are split in separate packages.  If you don't want the graphical
splash, you can remove the plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo package.  Or you can
boot without the 'splash' option to get a text-only view, which is in fact
the default on new installs of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server; though this causes
some problems in the rare cases when you *do* need to interact at boot time,
as documented in the release notes.

> If I can't get 24 bit, smooth splash on 10.04 - fine, I would like to get
> console with messages from kernel - but I can't get that, even when I
> remove "quite splash", it is still displaying blank screen, and sometimes
> I can see damaged console text during shutdown.

If you're still having this problem even when booting without the "quiet
splash" options, then that's something quite different, and not, I think,
related to plymouth itself.

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