On 22 September 2010 19:27, Aron Xu <happyaron...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thirdly, the better choices for users: > * Chinese: ibus-pinyin (ibus-chewing is better for some traditional > Chinese users, but ibus-pinyin is still good enough comparing > with ibus-m17n) Pinyin won't work for Taiwanese users - like you're saying, ibus-chewing is needed since those users don't use pinyin at all (i.e. ibus-pinyin isn't "good enough").
Unless you mean by your selection that Cantonese users have to use something different than ibus (which method would that be?), ibus-pinyin and ibus-chewing don't cover all Chinese users. They'd have to learn a whole new language (Mandarin) before even being able to consider those methods. > Question: What we are doing? > > Now we are removing ibus-m17n (and dependencies) from the CD to save > some space, because it is not good. Maybe people will complain that with > ibus-m17n there is at least a working one but without it there is none. > Yes, but removing it should be still considered a step forward rather > than regression, because we can find better way for aid of input method > in near future's development. > > Question: Shall we also consider it a regression since some user cannot > input characters when they just finished a fresh installation? > > Definitely not. People who don't use an input method may think there is > a one that can use is better than none. But things seems to be contrary > in this specific field, because the low quality of those input methods > will do harm to user experience and when there is none users will know > they need to install it (install language support or simply a package). > In fact, we may consider it a big step forward, as explained below. I completely agree that no method at all would, in this case, be better than one that doesn't work. The Ubuntu Community should be aware, though, that most CJK users would just download specially localized version of the LiveCD, resulting in more fragmentation and less bug reports. However, that was already the case when CJK support was not working in older versions of Ubuntu, and while it meant at the time the main Ubuntu didn't get the fixes (and wasn't working), CJK support has now improved to the point the international version just works, so not getting those smaller improvements might not be a big deal. And thanks a lot Aron for your dedication. (Also, sorry if the formatting isn't right - I only have access to webmail these days). -- ibus languages not installed by default ibus 1.3.7 in ubuntu 10.10 beta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/637766 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
