And to be clear (probably should have reread before posting).

* Natty live cds from a week ago worked, but there haven't been any live
cds up until a few days ago

* I was able to successfully install 10.10 and 10.04 on both pieces of
hardware without workarounds.  Same as the natty builds from ~1 week
ago.  It's very recent that I have to use xforcevesa/nomodeset

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  Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in pixman_image_set_has_client_clip()

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