On 2011-04-28 07:11, Achim wrote:
> as you see, this sentence "changed - log in again" and so on - it is
> the whole day there. Doesn't matter whether you change something or
> not - it's still there.

Yes, it's a static text string. Obviously there is room for a more fancy
solution, but awaiting that somebody will create such a feature, the
static string is better than no info at all, right?

> Second, changing this setting in 10.10, the clock was set to the
> regional format.

Correct. It's true also in 11.04 Classic Desktop.

> Why doesn't my languange (for menus & apps) change to english (US)
> if i choose the languages in this order: EN (US), DE, EN. Why do i
> see german then?!

It does change to English. Of course, you need to log out when the
languages are listed in that order and log in again.

If you claim otherwise, please give us a reproducable use case. (Waiting
for your next comment on bug #772928, btw.)

> Why have i to through out german (in other words: Set it below EN)
> to have english back? German is the second choice - not the first
> one.

You do not have to do that. OTOH, since English is always available,
there is no point with non-English options below English (US).

> Back to the subject - regional formats: Why does evolution show me
> the date in my messages header in english? Again: I selected german
> location. Affected is not only the clock panel, but'it's the first
> thing i see. Only if i choose the german language for menus and
> apps, then i get the regional format in german everywhere (clock
> panel, evolution and so on).

Thought I covered that in my last comment. You seem to mix up the
_translation_ of weekday and month names with regional _formats_.

> Now a real-should-be question is: What sense makes this "regional
> format" register in language support panel, when everybody does
> whatever he wants - no matter what you choose there? I think this
> should be either fixed - or simply remove that register from the
> language support. Then it's not a bug - it is a removed feature.

I see your point there. Please note that the remark in my last comment,
about the change being an improvement, referred to the display language
of weekday and month names only.

The global regional formats setting in Language Support vs. per app
settings is worth discussing IMO. Think I'll bring up the topic in e.g.
the ubuntu-devel mailing list.


Quite a few i18n changes were made in Language Support and GDM during
the Natty development phase. Therefore I do appreciate that you
challenge the result - it may help us identify things that have been
foreseen. But when doing so, it's important to be attentive to details.
If you click the "Help" button in Language Support, you are taken to a
new document that explains how it's intended to work. I would recommend
that you read that document carefully.

My belief is that Language Support and GDM now work as documented with
respect to language and locale handling. Possible cases when that is
not true are bugs - either in the code or in the docs - that should be
fixed soon. Requests for new features is another story. :)

Thanks!

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