more of assorted natty errata my pc is 64bit. my lucid is 32-bit (works ok), and my natty is 64-bit (full of bugs).
all the people below program and complete products written in asm (as a hobby)... (04:57:06) buguldey: I tried ubuntu natty with classic interface. It is not better than lucid - same bugs in evolution and empathy. So installed all apps I usually use - for example, Pidgin. Pidgin on natty often shows 70% CPU usage. On lucid, pidgin doesn't use such amounts. (04:57:21) buguldey: That was with natty updated to the latest. (04:57:33) user2: evolution sucks (04:57:54) user3: evolution will be replaced by thunderbird in 11.10 (04:58:04) user1: finally (04:58:30) user2: I replaced it the first time I installed it ;-) (04:58:35) user3: me too :) (04:59:15) user3: but the thunderbird default is nice because they will integrate Thunderbird Lightning with the calendar function of the date/time toolbar (04:59:22) user2: true (04:59:33) user1: I even tried unstalling evolution, but apparently I did a bit too much cleaning as the whole GUI was inaccessible the next login (05:00:02) buguldey: And natty is even worse than lucid: 1) mouse cursor often moves highly jumpy and freezes for seconds or fractions of second, 2) stupid thin 3...4-pixel-wide scrollbars that I have difficulty to notice and point with mouse cursor - and such scrollbars cannot be disabled in guis - I tried to disable them at various appearance places, searched all of them several times all the way around the System menu - no luck. (05:00:24) buguldey: user2: evolution sucks because it is highly underdeveloped. (05:01:24) buguldey: thunderbird 3.1.(latest) sometimes irreversibly loses (deletes) parts of text in emails when sending. data lost bug. (05:03:00) buguldey: such thin invisible scrollbars must definitely be replaced by normal gnomish wide scrollbars. (05:03:47) buguldey: user3: specifying wide scrollbars requires developing a new theme. Scrollbars' width isn't editable by normal theming GUI / by appearance editor. (05:03:59) buguldey: you need to hack a new theme or like that. (05:03:59) user3: just pick an existing theme (05:04:03) user3: such as THE OLD "human" theme (05:04:08) user3: same as previous ubuntu versions (05:04:09) user3: it's still there (05:04:11) user3: just click it (05:04:32) buguldey: user2: thunderbird data loss is extremely rare, but I've seen it yesterday. (05:04:35) user2: Indeed. Settings->Appearance (05:05:44) buguldey: user3: TB saved it to sent with part of text already deleted. When I opened web-gmail to look at the message source - same there - text partially lost. TBD. buguldey: i will try memcheck. And also fsck for all filesystems (05:06:50) buguldey: user2: i always use pop3 (05:08:07) user2: I didn't even consider ISPs that didn't provide imap (05:08:23) buguldey: user3: i've tried a lot of themes - but not sure that i tried human. I need to try all default themes - though i think most of them are visually awful and misleading at their pictograms/icon types (05:09:09) user3: IIRC you can pick separate icon themes and window decoration themes (05:09:50) buguldey: user3: i tried to find TB bug report place - failed - asked at communty/forum support at TB site. I need to locate developer's maillist and developers' site. (05:10:50) buguldey: decoration... i will try (05:12:00) buguldey: though i tried a bit to find an existing icon theme to replace userstatus icons for the screen's top right corner status menu - no luck - tried a few icon themes. it seems that needs to developed. (05:12:23) buguldey: lucid's icons for that are much better imho (05:13:32) buguldey: natty ones are unacceptable for me - hard to understand what their very little details drawn on icons mean. stupid icons with a lot of visual areas within every icon. (05:14:31) user3: dunno why you need developer mailinglist. bugreports live here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ (05:15:35) buguldey: well. Pidgin at 70% CPU and extremely quirky mouse handling kills natty completely on my machine. I will not delete it meanwhile - maybe they'll update stuff - i will bugreport all of the above stuff - but i stay at lucid. (05:16:20) buguldey: user3: i tried to find a central entrance from TB official site which is in TB About menu. Didn't try googling. (05:17:41) user4: ubuntu is starting to have the windows syndrome.. (05:17:49) user3: ? (05:17:50) user4: many linux distro's at that anyway (05:18:00) user4: breaking :-) (05:18:23) user4: the irony however is that microsoft has actually started getting its act together and is having less issues like that ;) (05:18:49) user4: yeah thats true.. but I mean breaking stuff with updates ;) (05:19:40) user4: ive had stuff break like 10-15 times in the last yr or so with linux and maybe 5X or something with windows :P (05:19:49) user4: while it used to be 0-1X a yr with linux ;) (05:22:06) buguldey: i also tried to install a pidgin-skype plugin which installs skype contacts into pidgin, but that plugin doesn't work : i tried to chat - it doesn't show responses. and the "skype-X" flavour of this plugin hung completely (together with pidgin). the "skype-dbus" flavor slighly works for some kinds of message packets - more stable. (one can choose either skype-X or skype-dbus or both.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/838561 Title: assorted natty errata To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/838561/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
