On 09/12/2011 10:20 AM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Robert Collins ([email protected]):
>> forwarding is definitely not equivalent. Consider offline
>> (train/plane/park) usage and wifi usage (two separate cases). In the
>> former there is no default route to forward too. In the second case
>> you have to do iptables SNAT to avoid firmware limits on forwarded MAC
>> addresses.
>
> I've had no troubles with the forwarded bridge with wireless NIC.  Still
> it might be worth discussing this at UDS.  Stéphane Graber offers a
> default network in arkose which he had mentioned offering as example/demo
> in lxc.  At the last UDS Orlando, it was decided that (for then) we did
> not want lxc to get mired down in such details, and we should indeed
> use libvirt.
>
> Stéphane, do you object to depending on libvirt and installing a default
> /etc/lxc.conf using virbr0 for O?  Would you prefer to follow the route
> Arkose uses as you'd mentioned at the sprint?  Or should we just do
> nothing for O?
>
> In any case we can discuss at UDS and change course for P.
>
> -serge

I think it's a bit late for O as doing that dependency change will 
effectively bring libvirt-bin on all Edubuntu systems (as arkose and LXC 
are part of our default see).

I indeed think it'd be great having LXC up and running immediately when 
installed but don't think depending on libvirt is the right way of doing 
it, especially as libvirt ships its own "lxc" and that would likely 
confuse a lot of users.

So I'd prefer we don't do anything for O expect maybe shipping a script 
in /usr/share/doc/lxc to setup a bridge (you can look at the one from my 
lxc-demo.sh script).

For P we can rediscuss the situation at UDS but I'd much rather have the 
LXC init script initialize a bridge and setup iptables (assuming that 
feature is enabled in /etc/lxc.conf) than depend on libvirt for doing it.

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Ubuntu developer
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