> Easier to maintain is all well and good, but IMO you're taking away too > much "easy to use."
It's a balance to find, what "easy to use" for some is "confusing options" for others. Supporting options is also mean resources driven away from something else to support those options. It's somewhat our position that it will benefit 90% of users to have a simple to use, powerful, well designed and robust system and I appreciate that you are probably part of the 10% that wants,needs extra customization. > noticed how much ground Mint has gained. I noticed how much buzz it has been doing in some circles, I didn't notice mint doing any significant move to be "mainstream" though., I.e being pre-installed by oems, having commercial support, being deployed on servers or in administrations, being officially supported by major actors in the industry. > it's the right path to make Linux so hard to use for real, actual Linux > users just to make it easier for newcomers. You can make it plenty easy > for newcomers without removing the features that experienced people > want. One way to do it would be to have a knob that would enable the > power user options. Let's agree to disagree, I'm a "power user", I use linux only for over 10 years for work and personal use and I don't miss anything from GNOME2 since I changed to Unity, it took a bit of time to adapt but keyboard navigation is better for me now (you can access any dash icons with super-<n>, access lenses from the keyboard, browse menus from the keyboard with the HUD) that it was before, screen estate is better, my desktop is better looking. I know plenty of my college are happy with unity as well. > It did work for all. I've been using Ubuntu for 8 years, so I know this. > I'm not asking you to add a feature; you're taking away features that > were there all along. 1- I didn't mean for all but I mean that when building something new you need the basis and to have some working first, then you can discuss improvements 2- Ubuntu is not taking anything away, unity is something new added, if anything it's adding choice, you can still use GNOME if you like, you can still use KDE, Xfce, etc 3- if your concerns are with GNOME3 dropping GNOME options you will get the same issues with any other distribution > Mint Debian Edition, that I know of. I installed it in a VM last night > specifically to see if that feature was present, and it was. well, they did "made it work", they just hand a loaded weapon to users directed to their feet, the reason we turned if off as said before is that many user did shoot themself in the foot with it and had to reinstall their system because their stored session was in "broken" state (i.e no shell starting getting just a background sort of issues, or getting gnome-shell and unity loading at the same time sort of issues). The "feature" was re-enabled "protected" by an environment variable though this cycle for power users who know what they are doing and need it. Note that session saving never worked great, lot of applications doesn't support it or support it badly (i.e don't get restore on the right workspace, at the right position, or not restored at all in some cases) and we prefer to not promote features that are half working since often it leads to user frustration rather than happyness -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/984615 Title: Wrong syndaemon settings in system settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/984615/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
