** Also affects: apturl (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Description changed:
- Binary package hint: apturl
+ Binary package hint: apturl, software center
+
+ Update:
+ Please note that this report has a much wider scope than just APTURL not
preventing system destruction.
+ I used to claim that Windows' installer is a black box hiding from the user
what it's stuffing into the system.
+ You may well install a whole database system bundle unnoticed just to use a
small program.
+ And you may well install it in English when you would have liked it in French.
+ On the opposite, Ubuntu is telling you package by package, file by file, with
exact byte size what it is installing.
+ It is showing you what's going on
+
+ And now I must tell them that Ubuntu, in a constant strive to resemble
Windows, has become just as bad.
+ They even removed Synaptics.
+
+ ---EOU ---
This happened on Ubuntu 10.04 upgraded from 8.10 and with latest updates
applied.
- 1. What you expected to happen
+ 1. What you expected to happen
The same as what happened, but without the inconvenience
- 2. What actually happened
+ 2. What actually happened
In order to help Belgian people paying their income taxes, I reviewed,
modified and tested
http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/tutoriel/utiliser_carte_identite_electronique_belge
In the process, I uninstalled all the Belgian middleware *beid* as well as
*pcsc* software.
(Not pcsclite1 because network-manager depends on it)
Then I clicked the following link on that page
apt://pcscd,libpcsclite-dev,beidgui
And this is what happened, taken from the APT logs.
APTURL did not display what it was doing, even less ask the permission to do
it:
Start-Date: 2010-10-17 05:06:49
Install: pcscd (1.5.3-1ubuntu4)
Remove: libacr38ucontrol0 (1.7.10-1), network-manager (0.8-0ubuntu3),
libgnokii5 (0.6.28.dfsg-1ubuntu0.1), ubuntu-desktop (1.197),
network-manager-gnome (0.8-0ubuntu3), libpcsclite1 (1.5.3-1ubuntu4.1),
gnome-phone-manager (0.65-1ubuntu2), libacr38u (1.7.10-1), wpasupplicant
(0.6.9-3ubuntu3)
End-Date: 2010-10-17 05:07:56
Start-Date: 2010-10-17 07:05:14
Remove: pcscd (1.5.3-1ubuntu4)
End-Date: 2010-10-17 07:05:32
Start-Date: 2010-10-17 07:34:37
Remove: network-manager (0.8-0ubuntu3), network-manager-gnome (0.8-0ubuntu3),
libpcsclite1 (1.5.3-1ubuntu4.1), wpasupplicant (0.6.9-3ubuntu3)
End-Date: 2010-10-17 07:35:16
The system must never uninstall the network-manager nor anything without
asking the permission.
- 3. The minimal series of steps necessary to make it happen, where
+ 3. The minimal series of steps necessary to make it happen, where
step 1 is "start the program"
1: "start the program"
2: all of the above
Conclusions:
1 it's an extremely bad idea to make an installer (APTURL) behave silently
and blindly.
No detail of what is being done, no permission and even no indication that
the operation is complete.
I have seen that the Ubuntu Software Center operates the same silent, blind
and dangerous way too.
2 it looks like it's a bad idea to have each packet of the same aptline
installed separately
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Title:
Should confirm package conflicts from the user as apturl can silently
uninstall vital packages like network-manager
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