On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mit, 2013-05-08 at 15:40 +0000, Ming Lei wrote:
>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Mit, 2013-05-08 at 12:25 +0000, Ming Lei wrote:
>> >> From the usbmon in correct case, there is no any ATA commands
>> >> at all. I am not sure where these commands are from(user space
>> >> or kernel?) in the failure case.
>> >
>> > I suspect it's strictly kernel - I didn't even mount the drive. Mounting
>> > is definitely possible (the drive works fine), but I wanted to show the
>> > minimal difference.
>>
>> No, in fact, the scsi layer(sd, kernel) has already read the 4 sectors from
>> the device successfully, then one inquiry command and some RAW ATA
>> commands are sent to device, and the disk starts to behave badly. It is
>> very possible that these commands are sent from userspace when the scsi
>> disk device shows up and udevd got the notification. And these commands
>> aren't sent to the device absolutely on precise.
>>
>> Looks some utilities(smartctl, hdparm) may do that.
>
> I used no smartctl or hdparm. It is possible that udevd may have sent
> something.
>
>> >
>> >> Could you install the upstream 3.9.0 kernel images on 12.04 to
>> >> see if the HDD can work well?
>> >
>> > Sorry, not possible (production machine). I also don't see what would it
>> > bring, as the machine with 13.04 that shows the errors was working fine
>> > with 12.04.
>>
>> Sorry to see that, but you already installed 3.9.0 upstream kernel on
>> raring(13.04),
>> right? I am wondering there is any difference to install 3.9.0 kernel on 
>> 12.04.
>
> Yes, I sent you the usbmon and dmesg for the patched 3.9.0 on raring.
> The 12.04 machine is a production server, so I'd rather not play around
> with it. I used it just to make sure the removable disk is working OK.
>
> I still don't understand what information you hope to get from that: I
> assure you that the test machine worked OK with precise and stopped
> working with raring.

If the ATA commands are from user-space in raring, 3.9.0 or raring kernel
will work well in precise release. That is what I want to know, :-)

Thanks,
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