Hello again Raymond,

Remember I am a hardware type engineer and not a programmer/coder.  I feel that 
I am not just the average user.  I would not know where or how to apply these 
patches.  I am a cut and paste sort of programmer. As for coding, HTML and some 
PHP.  As I mentioned in #37  I have reinstalled 13.10 due to all the changes 
that I made things were getting to the point of not having any audio output at 
all.  The audio is still broken, but It is at least outputting via HDMI even if 
it is only stereo.
In this fresh install, HDMI is available, but only in stereo and not 5.1 
surround.  Also even with the HDMI now showing in both ALSA and Pulseaudio, the 
audio output is mainly via command line testing and still not recognized 
properly by any audio or video packages (ie: VLC or XBMC) in Ubuntu 13.10.  I 
have also posted this issue on the XBMC.org website and most all state to 
remove/purge Pulseaudio from Ubuntu and also remove libasound2.  I did not have 
the issues as stated above with older versions of Ubuntu and removing 
Pulseaudio and libasound2 will break many packages that require it that are not 
referencing XBMC.
At this time I do not have the proper HDMI output, if any it is stereo.  In 
XBMC where 5.1 seemed to always work for me, that is now also broken and when 
switched to HDMI output for 5.1 all I get the digital data flowing through the 
audio out or mostly nothing at all unless I switch to S/PDIF for stereo.  
Before I forget, I also noticed if I select analog there is stereo audio output 
even though there is no analog input.

I greatly appreciate all the help that you and David have given me and
also thanks to your colleagues that may have worked with you behind the
scenes.  Due to a couple of audio and video editing projects I have to
get done, I have to move on so I can get them finished soon.  I will
still be available to run any tests that you feel that may fix this
situation once and for all.  For the little I understand about Linux,
this would be a total nightmare for the typical user to have to endure.
This type of issue would probably push almost any user to abandon this
distro and or Linux completely.  The conflicts and failures between ALSA
and Pulseaudio has been an ongoing audio situation within the Linux
distros dating back to 2007 maybe even further.  Now with the release of
Ubuntu 13.10 the audio complaints are already mounting for this version
and HDMI is almost unusable in most cases.  There are too many old,
stale and not properly used work-arounds for this and other audio issue
posted all over the Internet and  it should be time that it is remedied
once and for all.

What I have concluded here is that this may not be a fully broken issue,
but a issue that can be due to both a software and hardware issue.  The
sad issue is that most of the manufactures ignore Linux and the
developers are stuck with experimenting with driver development.  What
makes it worse in my case is that it now seems to be an intermittent
issue, almost as in a hardware issue that when a component heats up, the
circuit fails.  In this case too much data and the audio packages fail
to handle it.

My thoughts for the Devs; would be to keep after this HDMI including the
5.1 surround sound issues and possibly down the line, hopefully soon,
completely scrap ALSA and Pulseaudio and start a new.  Maybe between the
developers of both packages, they sit down together and maybe using the
code of both packages, they come up with a one piece audio package.  A
package that includes all the features and plug-ins to make a smooth,
functioning and system wide user friendly audio package.  As I stated
somewhere in my ramblings I mentioned the use of Ubuntu in home
entertainment, well the gaming industry are now making a push for Linux
as their main operating system for their games, these audio issues will
be disastrous for any distro of Linux if these issues are still
prevalent through the various distros.

I am still available for testing if needed, but I will have to add another 
Ubuntu partition to test on.
Thank you again for enduring all my long drawn out details and hopefully my 
information will help in fixing this issue once and for all.

Take care,
Gary,  aka GEEMac

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