Hello again Raymond, Remember I am a hardware type engineer and not a programmer/coder. I feel that I am not just the average user. I would not know where or how to apply these patches. I am a cut and paste sort of programmer. As for coding, HTML and some PHP. As I mentioned in #37 I have reinstalled 13.10 due to all the changes that I made things were getting to the point of not having any audio output at all. The audio is still broken, but It is at least outputting via HDMI even if it is only stereo. In this fresh install, HDMI is available, but only in stereo and not 5.1 surround. Also even with the HDMI now showing in both ALSA and Pulseaudio, the audio output is mainly via command line testing and still not recognized properly by any audio or video packages (ie: VLC or XBMC) in Ubuntu 13.10. I have also posted this issue on the XBMC.org website and most all state to remove/purge Pulseaudio from Ubuntu and also remove libasound2. I did not have the issues as stated above with older versions of Ubuntu and removing Pulseaudio and libasound2 will break many packages that require it that are not referencing XBMC. At this time I do not have the proper HDMI output, if any it is stereo. In XBMC where 5.1 seemed to always work for me, that is now also broken and when switched to HDMI output for 5.1 all I get the digital data flowing through the audio out or mostly nothing at all unless I switch to S/PDIF for stereo. Before I forget, I also noticed if I select analog there is stereo audio output even though there is no analog input.
I greatly appreciate all the help that you and David have given me and also thanks to your colleagues that may have worked with you behind the scenes. Due to a couple of audio and video editing projects I have to get done, I have to move on so I can get them finished soon. I will still be available to run any tests that you feel that may fix this situation once and for all. For the little I understand about Linux, this would be a total nightmare for the typical user to have to endure. This type of issue would probably push almost any user to abandon this distro and or Linux completely. The conflicts and failures between ALSA and Pulseaudio has been an ongoing audio situation within the Linux distros dating back to 2007 maybe even further. Now with the release of Ubuntu 13.10 the audio complaints are already mounting for this version and HDMI is almost unusable in most cases. There are too many old, stale and not properly used work-arounds for this and other audio issue posted all over the Internet and it should be time that it is remedied once and for all. What I have concluded here is that this may not be a fully broken issue, but a issue that can be due to both a software and hardware issue. The sad issue is that most of the manufactures ignore Linux and the developers are stuck with experimenting with driver development. What makes it worse in my case is that it now seems to be an intermittent issue, almost as in a hardware issue that when a component heats up, the circuit fails. In this case too much data and the audio packages fail to handle it. My thoughts for the Devs; would be to keep after this HDMI including the 5.1 surround sound issues and possibly down the line, hopefully soon, completely scrap ALSA and Pulseaudio and start a new. Maybe between the developers of both packages, they sit down together and maybe using the code of both packages, they come up with a one piece audio package. A package that includes all the features and plug-ins to make a smooth, functioning and system wide user friendly audio package. As I stated somewhere in my ramblings I mentioned the use of Ubuntu in home entertainment, well the gaming industry are now making a push for Linux as their main operating system for their games, these audio issues will be disastrous for any distro of Linux if these issues are still prevalent through the various distros. I am still available for testing if needed, but I will have to add another Ubuntu partition to test on. Thank you again for enduring all my long drawn out details and hopefully my information will help in fixing this issue once and for all. Take care, Gary, aka GEEMac -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1249705 Title: HDMI output not available in 13.10 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1249705/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs