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Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2011-11-17T07:58:31+00:00 karaluh wrote: Version: 0.5.81 OS: Linux This is according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199 Reproducible: Didn't try Steps to Reproduce: It is stupid i have to fill this textbox all the time Expected Results: It is stupid i have to fill this textbox all the time OS: Linux (i686) release 3.0.0-13-generic Compiler: gcc Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199/comments/2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2011-11-20T19:42:25+00:00 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Expecting me to go to the ubuntu bugtracker and loose my time because you did not want to loose your time is selfish and bad mannered. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199/comments/3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2011-11-20T19:49:17+00:00 Ismail-f wrote: Don't know if its valid or not but here is the upstream bug report: The standard format for print jobs has changed from PostScript to PDF: http://www.openprinting.org/ http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdf_as_standard_print_job_format Most applications are switched over from sending PostScript to sending PDF and CUPS in Debian and Ubuntu turns every incoming job to PDF, does page management operations (N-up, selected pages, ...) on a PDF data stream and then rasterizes the PDF data directly into the printer's native language. While investigating bug 891074 I have found out that Okular is one of the few programs which still sends PostScript. To make the CUPS workflow more straight and to fulfill the new standard it should send PDF (and AFAIK the other KDE programs send PDF). In addition, the most displayed file format is PDF and Okular could simply pass through the PDF input files when printing, making the printing even faster and more reliable. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199/comments/4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2011-11-20T21:44:00+00:00 Albert Astals Cid wrote: I don't see why this is a bug, moving to wish. Postscript printing should still be supported by Ubuntu, and if it is not, it is their problem they decided to move away from the default printing system without caring for people using the printing system itself. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199/comments/5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2011-11-21T08:35:11+00:00 karaluh wrote: (In reply to comment #1) > Expecting me to go to the ubuntu bugtracker and loose my time because you did > not want to loose your time is selfish and bad mannered. Writing this comment took you more time than following the link I provided. I report bugs to help make KDE better, not to be insulted by arrogant devs. For the record, pasting takes the same amount of time regardless of the size of text pasted, which makes your assumptions about my manners invalid. This is the last Okular bug I ever reported. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199/comments/6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2011-11-21T08:46:22+00:00 Albert Astals Cid wrote: (In reply to comment #4) > Writing this comment took you more time than following the link I provided. It did to me, but do you think I am the only person reading KDE bugs? There is lots of people trying to read, triage and fix KDE bugs, the fact that you make each and every of them go to ubuntu bug tracker to read something that could be easily be put into this bug report is making lots of people lose lots of time. That is bad for all of us, included you, since it lowers the possibility of your bug ever getting fixed. > I report bugs to help make KDE better, not to be insulted by arrogant devs. > For > the record, pasting takes the same amount of time regardless of the size of > text pasted, which makes your assumptions about my manners invalid. So you did not make it to save your time, why did you paste the text then? > This is the last Okular bug I ever reported. This means your bugs might go unfixed since there might be no report about it. You are only harming yourself with this stance Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199/comments/7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2011-11-21T10:19:44+00:00 karaluh wrote: (In reply to comment #5) > There is lots of people trying to read, triage and fix KDE bugs, the fact that > you make each and every of them go to ubuntu bug tracker to read something > that could be easily be put into this bug report is making lots of people > lose lots of time. That is bad for all of us, included you, since it lowers > the possibility of your bug ever getting fixed. Valid point. > So you did not make it to save your time, why did you paste the text then? I didn't see the reason to do that. Now back to the bug: (In reply to comment #3) > I don't see why this is a bug, moving to wish. Not following official standard IMHO is a bug. > Postscript printing should still > be supported by Ubuntu, It is. > and if it is not, it is their problem they decided to > move away from the default printing The new default is to sent jobs to CUPS as PDFs. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199/comments/8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2011-11-21T22:47:29+00:00 Albert Astals Cid wrote: (In reply to comment #6) > > I don't see why this is a bug, moving to wish. > > Not following official standard IMHO is a bug. It's not a bug because: a) "Printing to PDF as default" won't be the default until CUPS 1.6 that is still not shipped in any distro, just that Ubuntu decided to go on their way and enable it already b) We need to support other printing systems other than cups c) Printing to PDF instead of PS won't have any visible benefit to the user, other than maybe a somehow shorter printing time since there won't be one conversion less in the chain > > > Postscript printing should still > > be supported by Ubuntu, > > It is. No it is not, i've spoke with Till this morning and he has agreed there is a problem printing some Postcript files and it is something they have to fix, actually he told me he has a fix for it already and will be pushed shortly fixing your problem printing in Okular > > > and if it is not, it is their problem they decided to > > move away from the default printing > > The new default is to sent jobs to CUPS as PDFs. Yes, the issue as I said is we support more printing systems than CUPS Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199/comments/9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2015-03-10T10:45:04+00:00 Jan-Marek Glogowski wrote: This is a real problem for us. We (City of Munich) generate large mail merge documents (PDF with 4k - 8k pages, some even 16k), which we want to print from KDE. Generation using LibreOffice + WollMux takes ~2 hours, but even with the latest GhostScript 9.15, which is 50% faster then the GhostScript version shipped in Ubuntu Precise, it takes more then a day for poppler (0.24.x) just to generate the PostScript to be send to the CUPS server. And additionally we still have the conversation to PCL for the printer on the CUPS server side. Using a printer, which supports direct PDF printing, would get the time down to just the file transfer time, if Okular would actually send the PDF. And for some of our test documents the generated PS is much larger (8-10 times, talking about GB here) then the original PDF, which is written to tmp and "copied" to /var/spool for local CUPS or send to a central print server. If you still think this is not a bug, it would be nice to get some code pointers in current KDE4 okular codebase, so we can probably hire someone to get this fixed and included Upstream. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/891199/comments/10 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/891199 Title: Okular sends print jobs in PostScript format To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdegraphics/+bug/891199/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
