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If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-13T21:38:30+00:00 Mario wrote: This is a tracker for handling dependencies for MATE packages in Fedora. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-13T21:58:07+00:00 Dan wrote: Thanks, I'll be creating a yum repo on my FP account this weekend. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-13T22:05:31+00:00 Mario wrote: There are already MATE packages in a Yum repo at Dropbox: http://fedoraforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=22094&p=126613&hilit=mate+16+17#p125721 Sorry, the board is in German only, but you can use the commands anyway to get access to the repo. Just a hint to avoid double work. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-13T22:09:49+00:00 Dan wrote: Mario, This is old and antiquated. Please disregard it. http://vicodan.fedorapeople.org These packages were built last night. I have spoken with Nice&Gently and he would make a great comaintainer. Please see: http://forums.mate- desktop.org/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=26aaf9aae7931f42612c38584886777d and http://forums.mate-desktop.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=391 Thanks, Dan Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-13T22:18:48+00:00 Dan wrote: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/buildscript RPMs should be built in the following order: mate-common mate-doc-utils mate-corba mate-conf libmatecomponent mate-mime-data mate-vfs libmate libmatecanvas libmatecomponentui libmatekeyring mate-keyring libmateui libmatenotify libmatekbd libmateweather mate-icon-theme mate-dialogs mate-desktop mate-file-manager mate-notification-daemon mate-backgrounds mate-menus mate-window-manager mate-polkit mate-settings-daemon mate-control-center mate-panel mate-session-manager Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-14T15:49:48+00:00 Nelson wrote: Dan, Before we take time to start looking at the packages (I did already looked at those I know that require a lot of attention, for example mate-conf, which is a fork of gconf2) it would be my suggestion that you do the following: 1) install rpmlint (# yum install rpmlint); 2) pass rpmlint on all .spec files, for example: for i in *.spec; do rpmlint -i $i > $i.log ; done 3) If you install your packages, MATE won't work (I haven't installed them personally, but I'm pretty sure it won't just from looking at mate-conf). 4) Just like in GNOME2, MATE depends heavily on it's schemas; the upstream resolution adviced to handle them (as they in debian or arch) is poor, unreliable and chaotic. RPM based distribution can do a lot better. Generally speaking about the majority of spec I've seen: 1) poor and innacurate descriptions (this doesn't require technical knowledge to fix) 2) some mandatory splitting is required (ex: development packages); 3) many of your packages are owning system directories; this can't happen. A quick example would be: %files %defattr(-,root,root,-) %{_bindir} (...) this should be replaced for: %files %defattr(-,root,root,-) %{_bindir}/* 4) Changelog entries are not correctly generated; 5) Packages installing public shared objected (libs) are missing the linker entries, example: %post FOOLIB -p /sbin/ldconfig %postun FOOLIB -p /sbin/ldconfig 6) Packages with MATE schemas are not properly installing the MATE schemas (which will prevent MATE from strating up). You should consider studying the old GNOME2 packages with gconf2 schemas and see how they are implemented. In fact you should see gconf2 package from GNOME2 and build mate-conf based on the existing work of that package, since it's the most special package from a packaging point of view; while that package isn't properly fixed none of the others will work, or MATE itself. 7) There far many more issues. Like I said yesterday on the IRC, you should look at the work that has been previously done; I have the base from MATE all building for openSUSE[1]; take a look at my packages and you can port them all with not much trouble to Fedora (as there are tiny things that are different between SUSE and Fedora, like the shlibs/multilib policies and how they are implemented, this mainly affects package naming). If you want an advice: 1) Use the packages up to mate-conf to learn and to improve yourself; mate-conf is a very demanding package, so I will help you out on that one with more attention, but you will be on your own for fixing the most common issues. 2) Take your time; the number of packages and how they are currently will make this a very long review and it might take months given the ammount of work that needs to be done. Make you understand the process. 3) Ask for help when you need help. Even from a 'Portuguese n00b' like myself. 4) See my packages on [1]; They will help you, and I can explain anything you don't understand. This will most likely make jump in faster. 5) Release sources require you to run autogen.sh (to change in the future); this means you will require for most packages this: a) automake and autoconf b) libtool c) pkgconfig d) mate-common. I advice you to add as 'Requires' to mate-common the required packages to be able to bootstrap autogen.sh; so that in real packages when you build require mate-common it will already pulls all the stuff for ya, so you don't have to 'polute' the other spec files with it (as currently they are always required). This will be changed in 1.5.0. There's a lot to do... just start with rpmlint on .spec's and rpm/srpm packages and start fixing things. And keep asking here what you don't understand. I'm available to co-maintain only the packages wich involve schemas; I don't have much free and the one I have I want to have it available for my own packages on Fedora, but I'll make an effort to help you with them since errors on those packages will create huge negative impact. [1] - https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=GNOME%3ACinnamon%3AMATE PS: You can't use most of the macros I use on SUSE because they don't exist in Fedora, and even those packages provide a working MATE install on openSUSE, it needs still a few more tens of ours of work. As additional information, I've spoken to Stefano a few days ago, and from 1.5.0 onwards we will provide source releases already with 'make dist'; We are introducing this to help you ;) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-16T22:41:13+00:00 Dan wrote: Adding spot's comments here so they don't get lost in the other bug: "Tom "spot" Callaway 2012-07-15 14:53:30 EDT We probably cannot distribute "nyan cat" in source format either, without permission from the copyright holder. I have not looked at the source code at all, however, if only the image of "pop tart cat" is being used here, you may wish you ask the copyright holder (prguitarman <[email protected]>) for permission. The alternative would be to simply remove the "nyan cat" content from the source tarball entirely and make a "clean" tarball." Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-19T15:53:18+00:00 Wolfgang wrote: @ nyan cat I patched this cat away today! A test build from mate-desktop is working well. patch: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mate-desktop/mate-desktop_remove_nyan-cat.patch mate-about: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mate-desktop/mate-about.png Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-19T19:34:38+00:00 Nelson wrote: The nyan-cat is going to be dropped from MATE soon. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-19T23:57:43+00:00 Steve wrote: nyan-cat has been removed and a new version of mate-desktop (1.4.1) has been uploaded to http://pub.mate-desktop.org/releases/1.4 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-20T00:07:32+00:00 Wolfgang wrote: thx Steve for quick response :) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-20T02:34:46+00:00 Dan wrote: cool, thanks, one less blocker to worry about! Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/14 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-27T17:05:47+00:00 Tom wrote: Are there any other Legal concerns here except for Nyan Cat (already nuked)? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/15 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-27T18:00:01+00:00 Dan wrote: Not that I know of right now spot. Maybe you can do a final review after the group is completed? Otherwise feel free to clear the legal blocker. Thanks. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-07-27T18:16:52+00:00 Tom wrote: Lifting FE-Legal. Feel free to block any specific component which has any concerns. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/17 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-08-21T17:21:38+00:00 Mario wrote: Due to continuing problems within the packagers group which maintains the MATE packages, I stop working on this. Well, I'm the reporter of this bug, and actually I'm willing to close it, but I keep it open anyway. Maybe we get a second chance in the future. For now, I don't expect to get a working MATE in Fedora within a reasonable time. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/19 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-08-24T10:55:00+00:00 Michael wrote: Since there is lots of packages who are not ready on the feature page, and since lots of them were closed as "won't fix", I am wondering how we can really say that the feature is ready to 85%, especially since the (IMHO) main package, ie mate-windows-manager is not ready ( so that's quite hard to test without having this one properly packaged ). I counted around 30 rpms, and 10 are not ready, so the number would surely be more closer to 60% than 85%. This would mean the feature would be dropped, according to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Dropping Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/21 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-08-24T10:56:15+00:00 Dan wrote: Excuse me but, there are 4 packages left to be packaged. Please reread the wiki page, Michael. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/22 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-08-24T10:57:19+00:00 Dan wrote: In addition to my last comment the delay was caused by dependencies being pushed to testing and buildroot overrides, the branch to Alpha for Fedora 18. Mate Notification Daemon is currently being built and pushed to updates-testing. Thank you for your concern Michael. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/23 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-08-24T11:35:12+00:00 Dan wrote: Please also note that testing of MATE-Desktop on Fedora 18 is impossible since Fedora 18 is unstable, and anaconda does not work so you cannot install Fedora 18, nor boot it properly, thus proper testing is impossible. As of 08-24-2012 4:32AM PST the following packages are in the Fedora 17 STABLE repo: libmatecanvas.i686 : MateCanvas widget libmatecanvas.x86_64 : MateCanvas widget libmatecanvas-devel.i686 : Libraries and headers for libmatecanvas libmatecanvas-devel.x86_64 : Libraries and headers for libmatecanvas libmatekeyring-devel.i686 : Development files for libmate-keyring libmatekeyring-devel.x86_64 : Development files for libmate-keyring libmatenotify.i686 : Libraries for mate notify libmatenotify.x86_64 : Libraries for mate notify libmatenotify-devel.i686 : Development libraries for libmatenotify libmatenotify-devel.x86_64 : Development libraries for libmatenotify libmatewnck.i686 : MATE Desktop Window Navigator Construction Kit libraries libmatewnck.x86_64 : MATE Desktop Window Navigator Construction Kit libraries libmatewnck-devel.i686 : Development libraries and headers for libmatewnck libmatewnck-devel.x86_64 : Development libraries and headers for libmatewnck mate-backgrounds.noarch : MATE Desktop backgrounds mate-common.noarch : mate common build files mate-conf-devel.i686 : Headers and libraries for mate-conf development mate-conf-devel.x86_64 : Headers and libraries for mate-conf development mate-conf-gtk.x86_64 : Graphical mate-conf utilities mate-corba.i686 : CORBA Object Request Broker for MATE Desktop mate-corba.x86_64 : CORBA Object Request Broker for MATE Desktop mate-corba-devel.i686 : Development libraries, header files and utilities for : mate-corba mate-corba-devel.x86_64 : Development libraries, header files and utilities for : mate-corba mate-doc-utils.noarch : MATE Desktop doc utils mate-icon-theme.noarch : Icon theme for MATE Desktop mate-icon-theme-devel.noarch : Development files for mate-icon-theme mate-menus.i686 : Displays menus for MATE Desktop mate-menus.x86_64 : Displays menus for MATE Desktop mate-menus-devel.i686 : Development files for mate-menus mate-menus-devel.x86_64 : Development files for mate-menus mate-menus-libs.i686 : Shared libraries for mate-menus mate-menus-libs.x86_64 : Shared libraries for mate-menus mate-backgrounds.noarch : MATE Desktop backgrounds mate-common.noarch : mate common build files mate-conf-devel.i686 : Headers and libraries for mate-conf development mate-conf-devel.x86_64 : Headers and libraries for mate-conf development mate-conf-gtk.x86_64 : Graphical mate-conf utilities mate-corba.i686 : CORBA Object Request Broker for MATE Desktop mate-corba.x86_64 : CORBA Object Request Broker for MATE Desktop mate-corba-devel.i686 : Development libraries, header files and utilities for : mate-corba mate-corba-devel.x86_64 : Development libraries, header files and utilities for : mate-corba mate-doc-utils.noarch : MATE Desktop doc utils mate-icon-theme.noarch : Icon theme for MATE Desktop mate-icon-theme-devel.noarch : Development files for mate-icon-theme mate-menus.i686 : Displays menus for MATE Desktop mate-menus.x86_64 : Displays menus for MATE Desktop mate-menus-devel.i686 : Development files for mate-menus mate-menus-devel.x86_64 : Development files for mate-menus mate-menus-libs.i686 : Shared libraries for mate-menus mate-menus-libs.x86_64 : Shared libraries for mate-menus mate-notification-daemon was just pushed to updates-pending Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/24 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-08-24T12:09:53+00:00 Michael wrote: I see, from this bug report depency : mate-control-center , not pushed, closed as won't fix mate-screensaver, not pushed, closed as won't fix mate-system-monitor, not pushed, close as won't fix mate-mime-data, not pushed, close as won't fix libmatekbd, review not started libmateweather, review not started mate-settings-daemon, still in review mate-window-manager, closed as won't fix that's 8 packages. And the feature is for F18, pushing this to f17 and F16 now is IMHO not a great idea, especially if the feature is postponed because not testable by alpha and under 85% ( especially if more than half of the team go away ). And for installing fedora 18, I am able to do a upgrade from f17, and I would expect someone packaging a complete DE to do the same. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-08-25T00:06:11+00:00 Dan wrote: >And for installing fedora 18, I am able to do a upgrade from f17, and I would > >expect someone packaging a complete DE to do the same. Done it already a few times. It is not even in Alpha yet. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-08-27T01:38:40+00:00 Dan wrote: >Michael Scherer 2012-08-24 05:09:53 PDT >I see, from this bug report depency : >mate-screensaver, not pushed, closed as won't fix Not part of MATE Desktop base repo, or needed for MATE desktop to work. >>Michael Scherer 2012-08-24 05:09:53 PDT >mate-mime-data, not pushed, close as won't fix Repushed via bodhi. >Michael Scherer 2012-08-24 05:09:53 PDT >libmatekbd, review not started Package approved. >Michael Scherer 2012-08-24 05:09:53 PDT >libmateweather, review not started Package approved. >Michael Scherer 2012-08-24 05:09:53 PDT >mate-window-manager, closed as won't fix Rebuilt from scratch and approved. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/27 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-11-29T12:12:09+00:00 markm wrote: Not sure if it's a right place, I've just installed fresh Fedora 18 in a virtual machine, with Mate-Desktop selected as a DE, got open box installed with no applications - was quite surprised to see empty desktop with no icons, no information whatsoever. Expected mate-desktop to be fully functional desktop, not broken. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/35 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-11-29T12:23:46+00:00 markm wrote: (In reply to comment #23) > Not sure if it's a right place, I've just installed fresh Fedora 18 in a > virtual machine, with Mate-Desktop selected as a DE, got open box installed > with no applications - was quite surprised to see empty desktop with no > icons, no information whatsoever. Expected mate-desktop to be fully > functional desktop, not broken. please ignore my comment, my bad - I must have selected open box instead of mate, tried again and all installed smoothly. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/36 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-03-20T09:55:41+00:00 Dan wrote: All packages approved. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session- manager/+bug/876675/comments/39 ** Changed in: fedora Status: Unknown => Fix Released ** Changed in: fedora Importance: Unknown => Undecided -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/876675 Title: [needs-packaging] MATE To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-session-manager/+bug/876675/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
