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On 2005-06-25T10:24:51+00:00 Simon Huggins wrote:

Please see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=315085

Basically there are a few things which differ between xfdesktop's categorisation
and the freedesktop one.

These were prompted by /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/xfce-registered-
categories.xml

Apparently Science should be a section on its own not under Education

Also there shouldn't be a space in "Project Management"

The Debian bug has more detail.

Thanks

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On 2005-06-25T23:45:04+00:00 Bjt23 wrote:

Not sure about the Science -> Education bug.  I don't have any apps in either
category, so I'll have to create a dummy app to check it.  Actually, could you
post the .desktop file that's being miscategorised?  I'd rather reproduce it
directly.

As for the representation of "Project Management", that's my choice, and it'll
stay as-is.  Having MushedTogetherWords in a user-visible menu is stupid.

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On 2005-06-27T06:55:01+00:00 Simon Huggins wrote:

http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html

Hmm, maybe the bug submitter is confused.

It seems they're saying that the related category field is the parent field.
Doesn't sound right to me now I look more closely.

On your other point, the lack of a space in the internal computer read format
doesn't mean that you can't have put one in when you display it.

I think the problem is:
<category name="Office" toplevel="true" builtin-icon="PRODUCTIVITY">
<subcategory name="Project Management" />

Instead of:
<category name="Office" toplevel="true" builtin-icon="PRODUCTIVITY">
<subcategory name="ProjectManagement" replaces="Project Management" />


I'll ask him for an example .desktop file that he thinks breaks anyway

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On 2005-06-27T07:17:07+00:00 Simon Huggins wrote:

Oh no hang on.

That URL says:
    When using a category described in the list below it is strongly recommended
to also include the category listed under Related Categories.

So I guess that's why he wants Science under Education.

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On 2005-08-16T06:07:25+00:00 Bjt23 wrote:

(In reply to comment #2)
>
> I think the problem is:
> <category name="Office" toplevel="true" builtin-icon="PRODUCTIVITY">
> <subcategory name="Project Management" />
> 
> Instead of:
> <category name="Office" toplevel="true" builtin-icon="PRODUCTIVITY">
> <subcategory name="ProjectManagement" replaces="Project Management" />

My mistake - that was a typo.  I made up that file over a year ago and haven't
looked at it since.  Fixed in SVN.  As for any other problems, I don't think I'm
going to work on this menu parser anymore, in favor of Benny's for 4.4.

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On 2011-04-11T11:50:56+00:00 Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

This seems unfixed even in garcon, in 4.8.

xfce-applications.menu still ships a Science menu while it's an
"additional" category and the related "main" category is Education.

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On 2011-04-11T11:55:21+00:00 Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

Created attachment 3606
remove "science" menu

This (untested) patch removes the "Science" menu since it's not a Main
category. Applications should either go to the Education menu or maybe
to a Science submenu under education.

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On 2011-06-19T13:31:00+00:00 8-nick wrote:

Removed science in 2e5a4a7.

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On 2011-06-19T20:50:45+00:00 Open-s wrote:

I am both a scientist and an educator, and I can't understand the logic
in this change. The idea that science is a subcategory of education can
only be conceived by people who have nothing to do with science. Science
is an important subject in the education of modern people, but it is
much more than that. There are many programs that scientists actually
use for their work, and have nothing to do with education. Should they
all be under education? Following this logic, everything should be under
education. GIMP? can be used to study graphics. Firefox? used by
millions to read wikipedia and other educational web sites. LibreOffice?
used by students to write their papers. I can go on and on, but you get
the picture.

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On 2011-06-19T20:59:40+00:00 Jannis Pohlmann wrote:

(In reply to comment #8)
> I am both a scientist and an educator, and I can't understand the logic in 
> this
> change. The idea that science is a subcategory of education can only be
> conceived by people who have nothing to do with science.

I agree, science is not something that belongs into education per se.
However, the desktop entry defines it this way and I guess we're better
off sticking to it.

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On 2011-06-19T21:00:09+00:00 8-nick wrote:

It simply is not supposed to be a toplevel category. However we can look
into sub categories.

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** Changed in: garcon
       Status: Unknown => Confirmed

** Changed in: garcon
   Importance: Unknown => Medium

** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #315085
   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=315085

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