Yes, indeed, I think that may be it(new alsa config panel). They added boxes 
and the way it works and it seems NOW that if I unplug headphones, and boot, 
then go to settings/sound:
set system vol to full
set output device to "speakers-builtin audio"
set configuration to "analog stereo output"
Then the speakers appear in the test box and all works as it should.
Plug in headphones and the selection changes as it should. And back and forth.

Before, those settings would not hold through a boot, NOW they do.

I did see some more alsa library stuff going in yesterday and today.
Don't know what fixed it but it seems to be fixed.
At the moment, I might guess an error in the new alsa config layout, and not 
pulseaudio.

I did do alsamixer and changed automute (right arrow way over) ena to
disa to ena, with tests interspersed, but that seemed to make no
difference.

Requires that you go to settings/sound and set stuff up correctly the
first time.(I think)

I am guessing that that would be the case after a clean install, but I
will not test that.

I think this should be closed/as solved, but I would like to be able to
re-open it if the problem re-appears.  Many thanks for all your time.

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  [regression] No sound on ThinkPad T530 until activity at headphone
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