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On 2015-06-02T03:12:42+00:00 Chris Murphy wrote:

Created attachment 304401
screen shot

control-center-3.16.2-1.fc22.x86_64

There is a question mark icon in the upper right corner that turns out
to be for the wired connection. A ? used in this manner suggests the
system is confused about something, and wants me to know that it's
confused, hoping I can do something about it. So I'd expect there'd be a
notification or a way to get more information about what the confusion
is about.

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On 2015-06-02T03:15:42+00:00 Chris Murphy wrote:

Created attachment 304402
journal for this boot

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On 2015-06-02T10:14:57+00:00 Bugzilla-x wrote:

The menu bar is part of gnome-shell. The "?" you're seeing though means
that the connectivity check failed.

[ 3920.153840] f21v.localdomain NetworkManager[826]: <info>
Connectivity check for uri
'https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with 'Peer failed
to perform TLS handshake'.

It's either a Fedora infrastructure problem, or a NetworkManager one.
Reassigning to NetworkManager.

See bug 750268 for a follow-up on the icon not being self-explanatory
enough.

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On 2015-06-03T09:56:08+00:00 Thomas Haller wrote:

This is the same as downstream bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176316

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On 2015-08-31T09:48:34+00:00 Jan Vlug wrote:

I have a similar problem with an unexplained question mark for a wireless 
connection that works fine.
I seem to have this issue when I'm behind a proxy (both for wired and wireless 
network connections).

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shell/+bug/1722256/comments/4

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On 2015-09-08T10:38:43+00:00 Thomas Haller wrote:

(In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #2)
> 
> [ 3920.153840] f21v.localdomain NetworkManager[826]: <info>  Connectivity
> check for uri 'https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with
> 'Peer failed to perform TLS handshake'.

In this case, the connectivity check failed because of the SSL
connection.

It is anyway a bad idea to use https for connectivity checking.

We fixed that upstream in bug 747866 and commit
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?id=2a3a4eb16f9119bf434a28adc94c2684da8fd5e4


Note that this is largely a configuration issue. So, users must rectify their 
configuration, or (if the distribution installed configuration snippets) the 
distribution must fix the configuration file.


For downstream/Fedora, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176316 this 
will be done.


Closing BZ as fixed.

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On 2015-09-08T14:34:09+00:00 Bugzilla-x wrote:

(In reply to Thomas Haller from comment #5)
> (In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #2)
> > 
> > [ 3920.153840] f21v.localdomain NetworkManager[826]: <info>  Connectivity
> > check for uri 'https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with
> > 'Peer failed to perform TLS handshake'.
> 
> In this case, the connectivity check failed because of the SSL connection.
> 
> It is anyway a bad idea to use https for connectivity checking.

Why? It protects the user's privacy, at least a tiny bit.

> We fixed that upstream in bug 747866 and commit
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/
> ?id=2a3a4eb16f9119bf434a28adc94c2684da8fd5e4

If by "fixed" you mean "worked around", then yes.

> Note that this is largely a configuration issue. So, users must rectify
> their configuration, or (if the distribution installed configuration
> snippets) the distribution must fix the configuration file.
> 
> 
> For downstream/Fedora, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176316
> this will be done.
> 
> 
> 
> Closing BZ as fixed.

This really isn't fixed.

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On 2015-09-08T14:45:12+00:00 Thomas Haller wrote:

(In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #6)
> (In reply to Thomas Haller from comment #5)
> > (In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #2)
> > > 
> > > [ 3920.153840] f21v.localdomain NetworkManager[826]: <info>  Connectivity
> > > check for uri 'https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with
> > > 'Peer failed to perform TLS handshake'.
> > 
> > In this case, the connectivity check failed because of the SSL connection.
> > 
> > It is anyway a bad idea to use https for connectivity checking.
> 
> Why? It protects the user's privacy, at least a tiny bit.

there is nothing private about the connectivity-check request.
Especially does the HTTP header not contain fields beside:

  GET /static/hotspot.txt HTTP/1.1
  Host: fedoraproject.org
  Connection: close

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On 2015-09-08T15:00:14+00:00 Thomas Haller wrote:

(In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #6)
> (In reply to Thomas Haller from comment #5)
> > (In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #2)
> > > 
> > > [ 3920.153840] f21v.localdomain NetworkManager[826]: <info>  Connectivity
> > > check for uri 'https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with
> > > 'Peer failed to perform TLS handshake'.
> > 
> > In this case, the connectivity check failed because of the SSL connection.
> > 
> > It is anyway a bad idea to use https for connectivity checking.
> 
> Why? It protects the user's privacy, at least a tiny bit.

it's a bad idea, because it works bad with detecting captive portals.

And a portal might not handle SSL connections at all (which means we
would detect "no-connectivity", instead of "portal").

If the portal does handle SSL connections it present an invalid
certificate and the connection fails again (and to NM it's again not
clear that this indicates "portal").

Also, we warn now about HTTPS use:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?id=eab32a5252e82361a563154cd8bfc3949aaad119

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On 2015-09-08T15:27:34+00:00 Bugzilla-x wrote:

(In reply to Thomas Haller from comment #8)
> (In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #6)
> > (In reply to Thomas Haller from comment #5)
> > > (In reply to Bastien Nocera from comment #2)
> > > > 
> > > > [ 3920.153840] f21v.localdomain NetworkManager[826]: <info>  
> > > > Connectivity
> > > > check for uri 'https://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with
> > > > 'Peer failed to perform TLS handshake'.
> > > 
> > > In this case, the connectivity check failed because of the SSL connection.
> > > 
> > > It is anyway a bad idea to use https for connectivity checking.
> > 
> > Why? It protects the user's privacy, at least a tiny bit.
> 
> it's a bad idea, because it works bad with detecting captive portals.
> 
> And a portal might not handle SSL connections at all (which means we would
> detect "no-connectivity", instead of "portal").
> 
> If the portal does handle SSL connections it present an invalid certificate
> and the connection fails again (and to NM it's again not clear that this
> indicates "portal").
> 
> Also, we warn now about HTTPS use:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/
> ?id=eab32a5252e82361a563154cd8bfc3949aaad119

I'd rather have a fallback to HTTP in those cases where HTTPS fails, to
ensure the problem is actually with the network and not with the
connection, rather than actually hit HTTP in the wide internet all the
time when connected.

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On 2015-10-05T09:12:31+00:00 Jan Vlug wrote:

A question marks occurs also when you are behind a proxy, because the proxy 
settings are not being used when testing the connectivity. See this issue in 
the Fedora Bugzilla for more details:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1184406

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On 2015-10-05T09:18:45+00:00 Jan Vlug wrote:

See also:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738694

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On 2018-02-22T05:00:14+00:00 Daniel van Vugt wrote:

Also tracking in Ubuntu bug:
https://launchpad.net/bugs/1722256

I'm seeing inconsistent behaviour between different machines on the same
network. Plus no other desktop environment besides Gnome exhibits the
problem, so it's a bad look regardless of the cause.

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shell/+bug/1722256/comments/26


** Changed in: gnome-shell-legacy-bugs
       Status: Unknown => Confirmed

** Changed in: gnome-shell-legacy-bugs
   Importance: Unknown => Medium

** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #1176316
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176316

** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #1184406
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1184406

** Bug watch added: bugzilla.gnome.org/ #738694
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738694

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