in case it helps anyone, I found this:
https://forum.bestpractical.com/t/apache-core-dump-when-rt4-is-activated/33695/3
where its suggested not to use mod_perl. I changed to an alternate method and 
it appears to run smoothly. It might be related to different versions of 
openssl compiled into apache vs perl. If your setup is like mine where it has 
survived release-upgrade that might be part of the picture as well.

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