@Devs... sorry for finding this place an atractive and "warm" site to post
comments not straight related to the bug, but to Toshiba users, and thanks a
lot for not bitching us out and supporting all our personal  and; sometimes,
off topic remarks.
Saiid that....

@Nate.... Thanks a lot for sharing your comments.

I could never agree more...

2008/3/16, nathanlanham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Yes of course I have respect for the devs work as well, i just think
> that the time they spend working need to be better organized or the
> development/bug teams need better organized.


This is our feeling, but sure they are organized (their own way off course).
We are just a minority of laptop users and just remember that they pay more
attention (and concern) to the certified laptops . And I only know about
some Dell, Lenovo and Asus models. Toshiba itself, has granted us this
situation.

I too am running Mandriva 2008 on note toshiba, it is a great distro
> and only has a few things im not fond of. I built a new intel quad
> core and am running gusty on here, everything works fine with the MSI
> P35Neo2, ati card and the quad. I am about to try alpha six on the
> Toshiba, I hope it works but i still think I may stay with mandriva at
> least until hardy is a few months old and some bug are worked out of
> it (we all know there will be bugs, let just hope they get them fixed
> this time).


I did'nt mention but I also have gutsy and feisty installed on 2 boxes in my
office and they are running fine, but as u said, a few months later after
hardy is sort'a stable they will be upgraded, I will not run any risk 'cause
they have a tough charge of work in my office
AS I said, I'm running mandriva 2008.1 on my laptop, Mandriva seems to like
Toshiba laptops a lot. With the new 2.6.24 kernel, I don't need to boot with
the "acpi_osi=!LInux" parameter, my GPU is very cold. I must say that I have
some minor issues with my nvidia GC after the last update but I believe this
will be fixed some time before the final release if not before RC2  (this is
one thing I like from mandriva devs) I believe some of them are using
Toshiba laptops 'case they tend to be very fast to fix toshiba related bugs.
This release is very stable I must say, minor issues like the amsn mic
cannot be configured but this is not such a deal. the 18 th of this month
RC2 will be available, I suggest u to try it and use the powerpack theme, it
is so beautifull that people here in my office is requesting me to move to
mandriva ;=), oh and the fonts.. sharp and nice when you select the Subpixel
LCD and light parameter in the fonts setting tab. u don't need to do anymore

I think you could be right, none of the devs use Toshiba notebooks.
> But honestly Toshiba notebooks are some of the most common laptops on
> the market so they really should find someone to help test :)


Not only mmost of the common, but have been sharing the firs sales positions
for more than a decade :).

Asus notebooks are great, i almost bought one a few months ago. They
> make one (not sure the model) that has 2 separate HDD's totaling
> 320GB. The one thing i would watch out for is all the dolby
> stuff...that is sure to cause problems with driver support (i would
> think). Another option you have is an MSI notebook....these are sweet!
> i would love to have one. Toshiba as far as i know has no plans on
> supporting anything linux in the future, they are a "windows only"
> company just like you already know. When i bought my notebook I didnt
> really have the intention of running linux on it, even though I
> already did on my desktop. I would suggest to anyone that is buying a
> laptop for linux use NOT to buy Toshiba and if you have a shiny new
> one try to sell it and get something better. Ill tell everyone right
> now that a company that does not "support it users" (running what OS
> they want) i will and no one else should support. On top of this I
> have had really big problems with Toshiba customer support...i just
> really dont like this company and dont plan on buying anything from
> them ever again...just how i feel though.


Ases are made to support any kind of OS, they bellieve that the client
deserves to have the  choice on which OS to use, they have minor issues and
googling a little bit you find that asus offers a very nice support to their
users.
Regarding the Dolby stuff, my colleague (an architect) he is doable booting
an asus with XP and openSuse 10.3, he spends 10 to 12 hours in windows and
the rest in linux :D, and after I showed off a little bit with my mandriva
box, now he wants to move too ;=).
And yes!!! I totally agree with you

Kind Regards

Luis

>
>
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Luis Suárez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Nathan...
> >  Personally I've switched to Mandriva 2008.1 (cooker) the development
> branch.
> >  I really love this distribution and it's almost sure that I will not
> change
> >  it anymore (unless ubuntu comes with something very very decent IMHO).
> >  However, Ubuntu for me is like my mother and father, I alwasy come to
> it
> >  :).. I can hate it sometimes but I love it so much... I have 10 GB of
> my HD
> >  just for testing one distro at a time.. in this momment I have Ubuntu
> and
> >  I'm kind of happy (just sort of) but I think the Devs are not getting
> >  motivated by us (toshiba users).
> >  If I'm disapointed?... Yes, of course!!! You wouldn't believe I'm still
> >  using dapper in 2 machines 'cause edgy and feisty don't like those
> boxes...
> >  but that's not a real problem because dapper is a LTS distro and I will
> >  stick to it until it's dead..
> >  if Hardy is going to be LTS (which I believe it will) and if this
> distro
> >  likes my machines... I WILL install it on'em (off course)... and will
> >  continue in ubuntu forums, even if I don't use it, .. that does not
> mean I
> >  don't like it.. I will continue promoting it... it's a fantastic
> >  distro...and the most important thing... if Toshiba continues with
> their
> >  "Only M$ Softwre" Policy.... then my next laptop will be a Lenovo or
> Asus
> >  ... then I can play with 3 or 4 distros at the same time...
> >  I do not think that Devs give a damn about us... what I think is that
> they
> >  don't use toshiba laptops... and in the other hand... 6 months from one
> >  release to rnext one, seems to be too much for them... I know that the
> >  technology is running very quick, but still I think they can implemnt
> new
> >  changes in the same distro.... for me.. they simply go too fast that
> they
> >  don't have time to release a "stable" version.. At least since 5.04,
> which
> >  MO has been a very stable release, I've not seen something better.
> >
> >  Cheers
> >
> >  Luis
> >
> >  PS.. Devs, there is nothing personal against you, in fact I have a lot
> of
> >  respect for your work
> >
> >  2008/3/15, nathanlanham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> > >
> >  > mandriva, gentoo, centos, and many more are great options. I always
> >  > say im going to switch but for some dumb reason i come back to
> ubuntu.
> >  > im testing alpha 6 in the morning...maybe it will be better (doubt
> >  > it). also im not to keen on this new authentication process thing in
> >  > hardy...like i said before it feels like user account control on
> >  > vista.
> >  >
> >  > Luis, you have been in this bug report since the start. are you as
> >  > disappointed as i am in how this got treated? im not saying we are
> >  > more important than anyone else...but come on...a little help from
> the
> >  > devs would at least show they give a shit about their users.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Luis Suárez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  > wrote:
> >  > > Two new sentences I've learned today...
> >  > >
> >  > >  "Extra Stable release".. and Status: Incomplete => Fix Release
> ...LOL
> >  > >
> >  > >  PS.. not even "pure" Debian or Fedora, Mandriva, Suse are Extra
> Stable.
> >  > and
> >  > >  I have the same issue with Alpha 5 with the jack connector... this
> is
> >  > >  incredible but I was assuming this was a hardware problem but it's
> only
> >  > >  happening with ubuntu.
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  > >  --
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > toshiba p100 series dsdt acpi error no sound, works with acpi
> turned
> >  > off.
> >  > >  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/136469
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> >  > >  of the bug.
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  > --
> >  > toshiba p100 series dsdt acpi error no sound, works with acpi turned
> off.
> >  > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/136469
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> >  >
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> >  --
> >
> >
> > toshiba p100 series dsdt acpi error no sound, works with acpi turned
> off.
> >  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/136469
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> toshiba p100 series dsdt acpi error no sound, works with acpi turned off.
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