** Summary changed:

- dbus needs restarting needlessly (file monitoring broken?)
+ inotify regression in dbus 1.1.20 (with patch)

** Description changed:

  Binary package hint: dbus
  
- #synce has seen an influx of hardy users with problems installing one of
- our packages. Restarting dbus fixed the problem for them. This was not
- needed with the gutsy version of the package, and so is likely a
- regression. According to our contact at Mandriva, dbus 1.1.20 had a bug
- which they had to patch for a while (before they moved to dbus 1.2.1,
- which is fixed).
+ ** This will hurt anything that installs files to /etc/dbus-1/system.d/
+ **
  
- From IRC:
+ This bug was discovered after a large influx of users into #synce
+ following the Hardy release. In Gutsy, the SynCE PPA worked just fine.
+ However, when Hardy was released we started having trouble with one of
+ the packages that needed to install a file to /etc/dbus-1/system.d/. We
+ quickly worked out dbus needed a restart before the new system.d file
+ would be loaded. This was not the case with Gutsy - so this is a
+ regression.
  
- 11:32 < ParkerJone1> Hello all.  Trying to install synce on ubuntu hardy
- following these instructions http://www.synce.org/moin/SynceWithUbuntu
- and ran into a problem.   * Starting odccm odccm
+ Our contact at Mandriva was quick to tell us of a problem they had with
+ dbus 1.1.20 and link us to the patch. This was fixed in OpenSuse and
+ Mandriva very quickly, and the patch is quite small. Without this patch
+ the odccm package needs to restart dbus to install cleanly, which I
+ consider to be a bad thing. Apparently this was fixed so quickly
+ elsewhere that there isn't a bug #, either for Mandriva or dbus.
  
- 11:32 < ParkerJone1> ** ERROR **: Failed to get bus name: Connection ":1.44" 
is not allowed to own the service "org.synce.odccm" due to security policies in 
the configuration file
- 11:32 < ParkerJone1> aborting...
- 11:32 < ParkerJone1> Any ideas?
+ The patch can be found at:
+ 
http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/dbus/current/SOURCES/dbus-1.1.20-fixmonitor.patch?revision=190617&view=markup&pathrev=190617
  
- (Note that our package ships the correct config file so that this error
- doesn't occur)
- 
- 12:21 < gdiepen[work]> Jc2k: I don't know anything about it, except for
- the fact that after restart of dbus, odccm could be started without a
- problem
- 
- 12:32 < AdamW> Jc2k: we had to patch dbus for the above issue for a while
- 12:32 < AdamW> Jc2k: hold on, let me pull out the details
- 12:33 < AdamW> Jc2k: yeah, if you're on 1.1.20, it needs a patch
- 12:34 < AdamW> jc2k / gdiepen / parkerjones : likely needs this dbus patch : 
-                
http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/dbus/current/SOURCES/dbus-1.1.20-fixmonitor.patch?revision=190617&view=markup&pathrev=190617
- 12:35 < AdamW> it's fixed in upstream 1.2.1 (at least, maybe 1.2.0 too, I 
dunno, we went straight from 1.1.20 to 1.2.1)
+ Please see below for a better description of what is going on:
+ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.dbus/9182

** Tags added: dbus regression

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inotify regression in dbus 1.1.20 (with patch)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221834
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