Hello Myriam
Thanks for having shared your thoughts. I understand your concerns and I also wish to avoid having divisions. On the other side I appreciate the work done by people enthusiastic about Ubuntu who help to spread the message. There should be no flaming just because existing defined procedures haven't been followed - but of course we have to fix any issues soon. I don't mind if it is the list or the physical meeting.
Regards, Dani *** Am 28.04.2010 14:39, schrieb Myriam Schweingruber:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 14:03, Daniel Stoni<[email protected]> wrote:Folks, would you mind to postpone the discussion to take place during a real meeting? Next RP would be a good occasion ...Which I can't attend, sorry. A bit very far away for me in my current situation. So, weather you like it or not, this discussion is going to happen on this very mailing list, as uncomfortable it might seem to you. As far as I am concerned, all those subscribed to the mailing list are team members, shifting the discussion to a party that most people don't even know about or can't attend is excluding. We used to have meetings on IRC, where we should normally coordinate the work, and on the mailing list. Expecting people from all Switzerland to flock to Winterthur, which, at least for those from the Tessin and the Suisse Romande, is not exactly near or by any means central, is a bit much, Especially for a release party that is still not to be found on our wiki, nor have I seen any ads for it go to other Swiss Free Software groups. So that RP you are talking about is a local party by local people, but certainly not an official Release Party by the Swiss Team, since the team has only been contacted once by mail and nobody bothered to use the official media to do the organisation, despite my explicit demand to do so.. But I guess it was too much to ask for people who don't give a damn that there are people not speaking German in this country... Which reminded me only about that old discussion we had a few years back where people were complaining that not everything was in German, because of one single person not speaking English. I have spend 3 full days preparing ALL the wiki pages for the portal in FOUR languages, everything was posted to the mailing list, all the wiki pages are there, NOBODY did ANYTHING since to make this work. Funnily enough the same people who complained then are the ones organizing that party, but by carefully avoiding to include the team. That's what I call dividing. Now think about... Just to remind you: The Ubuntu Swiss Team is an official LoCo Team of the Ubuntu Community, with a wiki, a mailing list and an IRC channel. There are no other official channels in my eyes, nor are there in the eyes of the rest of the Ubuntu community or the LoCo council, so whatever is done elsewhere and not notified to any of these communication channels is not official at all. period. We aka the founding members of this team have worked hard to bring it where it is and make this a recognized official LoCo Team, and I very much hope the following leaders will work in the Ubuntu spirit as well. But by doing that outside of the Team is certainly not the best way to start with... Regards, Myriam. PS. May I point you to the current discussion on the LoCo-contacts mailing list? All team leaders of the official teams will not only have to sign the CoC, but also the LCoC. So think twice before doing things without including the team in the discussion, there are not many ways to do it right, but certainly a lot more ways to do it wrong. PPS. For digest subscribers, would you please read the digest mails correctly and change the subject line to avoid breaking the thread, as advised in the digest mail header? Thank you.
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