From: Ziv Leyes <[email protected]> To: ubuntu-cloud <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, October 26, 2010 5:30:49 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-cloud] Questiong on setup of cluster and node
Hii Ziv, - snip - > The ubuntu cloud is meant to be a platform that runs VMs, > so what you're trying to do is to run a VM platform from within a VM host! Could you please explain in more detail. Whether Ubuntu Cloud is already a platform with a virtualizer, say KVM or VirtualBox, running on it. It allows VM to be installed and running on it. If my assumption is correct. Ubuntu Cloud is command line operation without X. I can't run Virtual Machine Manager (GUI) on it. Then the installation of VM (node) must be on command line? If I'm wrong please advise. TIA > As a no so related allegory, is like installing WindowsXP, then run > VirtualBox, > > create a new machine, install Win7 and install VirtualBox inside it, and > then expect that this VirtualBox will satisfy your needs... Whether to find a new PC installing Win7 as host and then installing VirtualBox on it. In such configuration I can install both cluster and nodes on VirtualBox as VMs? I'm now running Ubuntu as host with VirtualBox installed on it. This change is only on the host. Sorry I can't see the difference. Pls advise. Thanks B.R. Stephen L On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Stephen Liu <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Ahmed, > >Thanks for your advice. > >> Two get a "supported" installation, you'd need 2 PCs minimum. >> PC-1 To act as cloud controller, cluster controller and >> storage (walrus, SC) >> PC-2 To act as "node". You can later on add as many nodes >> as you want > >> I would be quite hesitant to install any of those as "VMs". > >I succeeded installing cluster as VM of PC-1. It is running and can be >connected on browser remotely via Internet. But I failed to get the node >running as VM of PC-1, in the same PC. > >I'll try installing a node as VM of PC-2 later. If failure making the cloud to >work I would stop testing cloud computing until solution discovered. > > >> There are hacks to install everything on one node, but >> they're just hacks > >Running virtualization? > > >Cloud computing is NOT a new technology, only the main frame and terminals on >the service provider's server. This is a technology of yesterday tracing back >to Utility Computing, Grid Engine, etc, several years back. I tested the later >at least 4~5 years ago. At that time they were run by universities sharing data. > > >I found following thread:- >The Enterprise Cloud: How to Build a Server Demo >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6lvKnbws78&feature=mfu_in_order&playnext=1&videos=sIemMxnTfDk > > > >Created by Terremark showing how to create a server on Web. > >Previously I did it in another way creating several servers (nodes), Linux and >Windows, on VirtualBox/KVM. Users have full access to the servers over Internet >with the IP address and password provided, on command line and GUI (RDP). > > >I think the concept is more or less the same. I have following doubt :- > >Can the user have full knowhow and experience on monitoring and configuring the >server? If YES he/she would build the server themselves, not to down/buy a >server. > >I will be happy to see what new technology will be added to cloud computing in >the not too distant future. > > >B.R. >Stephen L > > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Ahmed Kamal <[email protected]> >To: ubuntu-cloud <[email protected]> >Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 5:51:03 PM >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-cloud] Questiong on setup of cluster and node > >On 10/23/2010 01:00 PM, Stephen Liu wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I'm a little bid confused on the setup of Enterprise Cloud. Cluster and node >> can't coexist on the same PC which is my finding. >> >> 1) >> PC-1 for cluster >> Cluster can be installed on VM which is my finding. >> >> >> PC-2 for node >> I suppose node can also be installed on VM, but NOT on the same PC with >>cluster. >> >> What about if I need adding more nodes whether I need adding more PCs? Or >>nodes >> can coexist on the same PC running as VMs? If it needs adding more PCs then >> better go away from Cloud. >> >Hey Stephen, > >Two get a "supported" installation, you'd need 2 PCs minimum. >PC-1 To act as cloud controller, cluster controller and storage (walrus, SC) >PC-2 To act as "node". You can later on add as many nodes as you want > >I would be quite hesitant to install any of those as "VMs". There are >hacks to install everything on one node, but they're just hacks > >-- >Ubuntu-cloud mailing list >[email protected] >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cloud > > > > >-- >Ubuntu-cloud mailing list >[email protected] >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cloud >
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