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On 31 Jan, 2006, at 12:43 AM, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote:

Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:

These can be treated the same way as Windows does, with a "This program is not responding" alert <http://www.jvwinc.com/end-now.gif>, or the same way OS X does, with an "<appname> cancelled shutdown" alert.

Yes, but this is a feature of Windows that makes people cringe. It gives people a feeling that the app or system is broken.

That's partly because the Windows alert is a awkwardly designed, but mostly because the app *is* broken. :-) Until this detail of the Ubuntu desktop is dragged into the 1990s, logging out will perform mass dataloss instead, which is rather impolite.

I would suggest a solution with a dialogue without a counter but where you do have to click confirm to activate to avoid data loss. The data protection can be catered for by calling the screen locking/screen saver app with a time parameter that is shorter than the user's default. 60 or 90 seconds is probably fine.

That seems like a reasonable solution to the security aspect.

It may be necessary to modify the screen locking program to accept a parameter to override the default time, but if so, that would mean modifying just one app instead of the hundreds that would need to save data properly.
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No, the apps need to be fixed anyway. If you've migrated from a better-behaved OS (such as Windows 3.0 or later), you'll expect apps to not throw away your data even when you've confirmed that you want to log out. This won't be a quick problem to fix, but it still needs to be fixed.

- -- Matthew Paul Thomas
http://mpt.net.nz/
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