IMHO there is enough devision over this dialog to warrent making it easily customizable for users. The customize dialog could then offer better descriptions of each function (as previously discussed int this thread).

The only change I would make to the current dialog is an edit button in the upper right hand region of the dialog.

Best regards,

Dan Shufelt.

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   1. Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item (JoE)
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   4. Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item (Sebastian Heinlein)
   5. Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item (Sebastian Heinlein)
   6. Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item (Adam Petaccia)
   7. Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item (JoE)
   8. Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item (Viper550)
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 07:49:03 -0400
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Is that an option somewhere in the setup? I didn't see it. I just checked.
It certainly is not an email option I have, i think.

On 7/14/06, Dennis Kaarsemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
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> On do, 2006-07-13 at 23:15 -0400, JoE wrote:
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:53:14 +0200
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Am Freitag, den 14.07.2006, 07:49 -0400 schrieb JoE:
> Is that an option somewhere in the setup?  I didn't see it.  I just
> checked. It certainly is not an email option I have, i think.

The question belongs to ubuntu-users.

Press Crtl+L in Evolution or choose Message->Reply to List (I hope that
this is the correct English menu item - since I use a German desktop)

Sebastian




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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:00:15 -0400
From: JoE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Not an option in Gmail.  I'd think it would be a cake walk to include
this in our group settings from the server we use, but I could be
wrong. Evolution might do it by default, but gmail does not seem to.

On 7/14/06, Sebastian Heinlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 14.07.2006, 07:49 -0400 schrieb JoE:
> > Is that an option somewhere in the setup?  I didn't see it.  I just
> > checked. It certainly is not an email option I have, i think.
>
> The question belongs to ubuntu-users.
>
> Press Crtl+L in Evolution or choose Message->Reply to List (I hope that
> this is the correct English menu item - since I use a German desktop)
>
> Sebastian
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:03:32 +0200
From: Sebastian Heinlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Am Donnerstag, den 13.07.2006, 18:55 -0700 schrieb Corey Burger:
> Hello all,
>
> Late in the dapper cycle we removed the lock screen menu item. I think
> we should restore it, for the following reasons:
>
> 1. It is used many times a day, as whereas the rest of the items on
> the logout dialog are rarely used more than once per day

Depends on the user. I nearly only use the shutdown button and never
touch the log out button.

> 2. Using the logout dialog is slow. You need to wait the extra 1-2
> secs for the dialog to pop

Perhaps we will get a speed up by using aiglx alpha blending. But I
don't know if this is achievable in the edgy time frame. As a benefit we
would also get better a11y support for gksu.

> 3. The system menu is not cluttered

Does upstream plan to redesign the two panel layout for 2.16?

> Please, lets keep this on topic and not devolve into a discussion of
> the rest of the logout dialog.

I don't think that you can separate the discussion of the menu item and
the discussion of the whole log out dialog.

Since if you only add an log out item it would be quite confusing: what
should be the difference between log out and quit?

Alternatively you can activate the upstream GNOME dialog and menu
entries by enabling the gconf key /apps/panel/global/upstream_session

Regards,

Sebastian




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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:19:20 +0200
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Am Freitag, den 14.07.2006, 11:00 -0400 schrieb JoE:
> Not an option in Gmail.  I'd think it would be a cake walk to include
> this in our group settings from the server we use, but I could be
> wrong. Evolution might do it by default, but gmail does not seem to.

There are reasons why not to do so. Just search in the archives you are
not the first one complaining about this :) But I am not the admin of
this list.

Mainly this is a problem of your mail client and not the list. You could
write to google about his.

At least, please do not use reply all, since I am subscribed to the list
and I don't want to have a cluttered "normal" inbox.

Regards,

Sebastian




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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:13:45 -0400
From: Adam Petaccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item
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On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 10:18 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
> On do, 2006-07-13 at 23:15 -0400, JoE wrote:
> > Can we fix this?
>
> Yes. Use reply-to-list instead of reply-to-poster.

I Evolution it's "Reply to all", but I usually forget about that.  But
as the original poster said, let's not get off topic.




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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:22:51 -0400
From: JoE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item
To: "Adam Petaccia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Right.  Back on topic now.  And you origional posters will just have
to suffer through double email duty for the time being while I reply
to all.
I think, as I said, that the logout screen is ugly and cluttered.  And
I think that removing the lock screen item m ight help.  I believe
that people are in 2 cams here.  1) use daily and really like it.  2)
never use it ever.  I doubt there's too much middle ground.

So would it be better to stick it into the applications menu or
something?  And allow for it to be readily added to the top panel?
Perhaps include it as one of the first tiered panel options?  that way
people who never use it never have to see it or deal with it, people
who use it once in a blue moon can use the menu, and people who use it
all the time can go to the panel, add it, and just click it whenever
they like.

On 7/14/06, Adam Petaccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 10:18 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
> > On do, 2006-07-13 at 23:15 -0400, JoE wrote:
> > > Can we fix this?
> >
> > Yes. Use reply-to-list instead of reply-to-poster.
>
> I Evolution it's "Reply to all", but I usually forget about that.  But
> as the original poster said, let's not get off topic.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:28:14 -0400
From: Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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JoE wrote:
> Right.  Back on topic now.  And you origional posters will just have
> to suffer through double email duty for the time being while I reply
> to all.
> I think, as I said, that the logout screen is ugly and cluttered.  And
> I think that removing the lock screen item m ight help.  I believe
> that people are in 2 cams here.  1) use daily and really like it.  2)
> never use it ever.  I doubt there's too much middle ground.
>
> So would it be better to stick it into the applications menu or
> something?  And allow for it to be readily added to the top panel?
> Perhaps include it as one of the first tiered panel options?  that way
> people who never use it never have to see it or deal with it, people
> who use it once in a blue moon can use the menu, and people who use it
> all the time can go to the panel, add it, and just click it whenever
> they like.
>
> On 7/14/06, Adam Petaccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 10:18 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
>> > On do, 2006-07-13 at 23:15 -0400, JoE wrote:
>> > > Can we fix this?
>> >
>> > Yes. Use reply-to-list instead of reply-to-poster.
>>
>> I Evolution it's "Reply to all", but I usually forget about that.  But
>> as the original poster said, let's not get off topic.
>>
>>
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The new Slab Menu that I am proposing has "Lock Screen" on it's right
sidebar ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab )

Viper550



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:43:57 -0400
From: JoE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item
To: Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ubuntu-desktop <[email protected]>
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Can we get a pretty screenshot of this "slab"?

On 7/14/06, Viper550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> JoE wrote:
> > Right.  Back on topic now.  And you origional posters will just have
> > to suffer through double email duty for the time being while I reply
> > to all.
> > I think, as I said, that the logout screen is ugly and cluttered.  And
> > I think that removing the lock screen item m ight help.  I believe
> > that people are in 2 cams here.  1) use daily and really like it.  2)
> > never use it ever.  I doubt there's too much middle ground.
> >
> > So would it be better to stick it into the applications menu or
> > something?  And allow for it to be readily added to the top panel?
> > Perhaps include it as one of the first tiered panel options?  that way
> > people who never use it never have to see it or deal with it, people
> > who use it once in a blue moon can use the menu, and people who use it
> > all the time can go to the panel, add it, and just click it whenever
> > they like.
> >
> > On 7/14/06, Adam Petaccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 10:18 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
> >> > On do, 2006-07-13 at 23:15 -0400, JoE wrote:
> >> > > Can we fix this?
> >> >
> >> > Yes. Use reply-to-list instead of reply-to-poster.
> >>
> >> I Evolution it's "Reply to all", but I usually forget about that. But
> >> as the original poster said, let's not get off topic.
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> The new Slab Menu that I am proposing has "Lock Screen" on it's right
> sidebar ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab )
>
> Viper550
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