-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 19.11.2013 21:25, Timo Aaltonen wrote: > On 19.11.2013 21:18, Robie Basak wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 09:04:59PM +0200, Timo Aaltonen wrote: >>> AIUI LTS releases don't offer upgrades to interim releases (by >>> default), only when the new LTS is available? > >> Right. > >> But imagine the situation without HWE. > >> I'm on Precise. Quantal is released, and I want to upgrade to >> it. It doesn't appear by default, and the standard answer is to >> specifically request through the GUI that all release upgrades >> are displayed rather than only LTS release upgrades. Then a >> release upgrade to Quantal appears, and I select it. AIUI, this >> is the supported way of doing it. > >> Now consider the same upgrade situation with HWE (which you say >> is not supported). In my ignorance, I do exactly the same thing. >> I request it to show me all available upgrades, not just LTS >> ones. The release upgrade to Quantal appears. I select it. My >> system breaks. > >> So I don't think that saying that you have to explictly select >> it is a reasonable excuse. This is the recommended way of >> upgrading up from an LTS to a standard release for non-HWE >> installations. I do not necessarily know that an HWE upgrade to a >> standard release is not supported. I may not even know that I >> have an HWE stack installed. The GUI behaves exactly the same, >> provides no warning with the identical process, and causes my >> system to break. > >> Save for any other explanation, this sounds like a Critical bug >> in update-manager to me, since it causes the system to become >> unusable through a process that the user would otherwise expect >> to work, but is actually not supported in a particular >> configuration that the user ends up in by default. > >> Does this make sense? Does you disagree, or should I go ahead >> and file this bug? > > Makes perfect sense, don't disagree at all. This was one of the > points of the discussion around "pockets vs renames", that upgrades > to 12.10 were a big no-no. Apparently the upgrader wasn't updated > to know about that fact. Not pointing any fingers.. a bug report > even this late certainly won't hurt.
Also! Don't forget the session tomorrow about planning the HWE stack updates for 14.04.x if you have something to share :) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-hwe-plans - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSi7vtAAoJEMtwMWWoiYTcprgP/06W81WrVDyK0PkEtNKw6ffu 9cdudP0k/6qAAxb4L4Hz3tQa0BTb/oXpoqJzTuf7o3u2ci3yciK65jMmk/sQmLle cIvHW8cEQ/tHKxI9XnlnYNLCrJY8r8sCqALJLNbOHABQGAHQb7xto2/NrVgpdwf5 VnzBY3NZWcnNNX9xvV6LypniswfdPsfeXqq+XyfAXFLV4KuSVrbyqX1u6mpOXVO5 vmVAymgjL3de01zJr2ZJsntcLIV82ZEdNVPJFYX/P4R1qecEUqu+DcmeVd4tZCy/ qw5TD24h4eJ2TTggqdPJS4R9mPNM8+EeWnQ/Kxoqnrre9oJKOpEItAdZnNyh59KZ qjxXI61N4WZi/83VYsvYEYlV+pbfr44wilWGkaKg4/W/XoSiuN4dFhJAN8hWoxQy 33zkd3id99tuFhpLRPi8ULMQaAEpf3FgLnFHI/d2dL1eNmi6Qj0qbW+P4Ro64Wul izvhidpB1iPUMlaTyYBmUFTRM6pl2u3X5Fxo69suWdizoiWNK7ck8XsvjJ/ahYyd B7DUTmOyqRk45nBAHSkW8uNBptbPzPRKhMIjEnLl+vvXPp6Rtu8Ujx30zJn8OTKl bss6R57H1mFD0mJFheB55qYvTqOPaIODLVcDi+3/rKKz8PS7JHI6bN76HMeO+6gA Dm2kzEBJ62292n9PqrMd =aWe+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
