On 3 October 2017 at 17:18, Khurshid Alam <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Jeremy, > > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Jeremy Bicha <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't know much about this topic. Can you point to more information about > this issue? Specifically, can you find a source for your 10 million claim? > > > I think it varies with country. On some country like here in India most of > them come with 32 bit uefi due to oem agreement I guess. > > Hp claims they ship over 13 million units per 3/4-quarter only in US and > more than 80% are windows. That's how I deducted the number. > > As for 32 bit uefi, Many dell inspiron i3 ($300-$500) still have 32 bit. > http://amzn.to/2kjv6Gf >
Which are certified with UEFI 64bit on Ubuntu, and some of these are even available with Ubuntu preinstalled from Dell direct. https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201508-19149/ > Asus X and R series : http://bit.ly/2fHspJG (Only windows 10, dos are fine) > > All the Asus cheap eebook series , like asus x205ta, https:/ > /www.asus.com/in/Laptops/ASUS_EeeBook_X205TA/ > > Those which are pre-installed with ms-dos are fine. Also I found some are > listed in Ubuntu Desktop certified hardware but the are with 32 bit uefi. > (Technically it's ok, because on the website, Ubuntu 16.04 is listed as > supported and 16.04 has 32 bit. ) > > > And are these devices even suitable for Ubuntu anyway? > Please check https://certification.ubuntu.com/ many of these have been certified by Canonical and manufacturer to be explicitly compatible with Ubuntu since like 14.04 LTS using the 64bit / amd64 OS images. > > I have used hack from > https://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support and from > https://askubuntu.com/questions/749306/ > > After installing everything works out of the box including sd-card reader > which never worked prior to 17.10. > > Suggestion: > > We only requ ire bootia32.efi on EFI/BOOT/ and i386-efi in boot/grub. May > these can be shipped with the iso? > That's what debian multiarch iso does > (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/). This means both > grub-efi-ia32 and grub-efi-amd64 needs to be pre-installed for the live iso. > Thoughts? > Since none of the machines ship 32bit UEFI anymore, adding support for 32bit UEFI has diminishing returns. Patches to livecd-rootfs / ubuntu-cdimage / d-i / ubiquity would be required to support this in Ubuntu, and so far it has not been a priority to add support for. -- Regards, Dimitri. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
