On 12/04/2010 01:53 PM, Scott Howard wrote: > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Evan Broder <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Scott Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Those two data points, combined, leads me to believe that there are >>> 400+ packages that are failing to build in Natty. Because of the >>> Debian freeze, we should not expect fixes to end up in unstable and >>> thus propagate to Ubuntu. Ubuntu would have to create diffs to fix >>> those FTBFS. >> I think your assumptions are a little off. Plenty of DDs are more than >> happy to upload fixes for binutils-gold errors into unstable. I've >> fixed at least one FTBFS where I knew the Debian maintainer was >> responsive by sending the patch off, waiting for it to be uploaded to >> unstable, and then syncing it back into Debian. No Ubuntu diff needed. > My problem isn't with the diff as much as there is work that needs to > be done, and it needs to be initiated from within Ubuntu since these > are not RC bugs to Debian until after squeeze is released. I'm not > saying there isn't coordination, just that if Ubuntu waits for Debian, > it won't get done until after Squeeze is released because DD/DMs > shouldn't upload to unstable unless there is an RC bug fix during > freeze. These FTBFS are not RC bugs to Debian Squeeze (but are for > Debian Weezy). Exactly as you said, you had to do the work to fix the > FTBFS - which is great, we need more of that. Diff or no-diff, we need > to do that 400 more times before natty. > > I'm a DM that received a bug report from ubuntu with a patch, which I > immediately uploaded to experimental and requested sync to ubuntu. > Even if every maintainer does that, there are still 400+ packages that > need to be reviewed, patched, uploaded to debian (most likely > experimental), and manually synced to Ubuntu (since it is in > experimental). It is doable, we just need to be aware of it and get > started. My point is that if we don't put an organized effort into it, > a large number of packages won't be fixed in time for natty. > > Cheers. > Scott >
What a lot of MOTUs have been doing is fixing the FTBFS in Ubuntu and sending the patch to Debian as a wishlist bug with the appropriate tags. Then just watch for the package to get the fix in Debian and request a sync when it's ready. Sync's are processed pretty regularly now, so that's not really an issue. Micah -- ubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
