On 03/02/2011 07:46 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 07:04:45PM +0100, Till Kamppeter wrote:
On 03/02/2011 05:53 PM, Martin Pitt wrote:
I take it we'd still need to keep Qt3 around in universe for some
time. Would it be feasible to move lsb-desktop and lsb to universe as
well? The only real main dependency of it that I see is the
"kubuntu-full" task, i. e. it'd just need unseeding.

pitti, we need to leave LSB in main to support the automatically
downloading printer driver packages. Epson has them on-line for near
a year, system-config-printer supports them and now this should
finally work to get more manufacturers onto the "Plug'n'Print" boat.

Nothing in main depends on the lsb package except for kubuntu-full, and
nothing installs it by default.  Are you saying that you intended to *add* a
new dependency on lsb in natty?  (If so, that would appear to require a
feature freeze exception at this point, for whatever this new feature is?)

Bear in mind that 'lsb' is the package providing the full LSB system.  If
you only need the LSB printing subsystem, there's an 'lsb-printing' package
for that.  But regardless, I don't see anything here that requires keeping
the packages in main given that they're not installed by default anyway.

I do not introduce a new feature, as "lsb" was in main before feature freeze. Moving 'lsb' from main to Universe would require a Feature Freeze Exception. Automatic printer driver downloads are a feature which we already agreed on during the last UDSes and pitti has just completed the Jockey part of it. As manufacturers are told that they have to make LSB packages (so that one package fits all distros), the full LSB needs to stay in main. Manufacturers have for example the liberty to ship a GUI tool with the driver. Therefore we need to keep the LSB.

   Till

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